A values consensus from Millennials?

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(07-04-2021, 02:55 PM)nguyenivy Wrote: I think the gun thing is 50/50 and while the right to own a firearm in the US will likely still exist, it probably will requirement more rigorous background checks & maybe something like what we have for driving (tests) to be allowed to own one.

Sport hunting isn't going away. Target shooting isn't going away. If I live in bear or cougar country, then I am keeping some heat. If I am in the sheep business, then I am keeping a firearm to kill any critter that threatens my sheep... and that includes Canis tigris.  

This is what your dog looks like to a sheep:



except for the stripes (OK. there are brindle dogs that actually have tiger-like stripes).  

Quote:I don't see porn continuing to be more accepted than it is now. I think it will at most remain as accepted and available as it already is at most. I think given the recent movements in our culture around consent, exploitation, and objectification being a far bigger deal than it was in prior decades, I think porn will start to move into being less accepted soon. 

I already see a reaction to it. It is not innocuous material. It can debase human relationships by distorting sexuality into something unpleasant. The suicide rate among those involved in its production as "stars" is astronomical. Men who use it have a high likelihood of debasing women into sex objects, even to her sexual organs to the exclusion of all other attributes of her personality.  Gentle erotica and artistic depictions of nudity may not qualify as pornography because such would automatically pass the "Serious Literary, Artistic, Political, and Scientific (SLAPS) criteria that have typically distinguished licit pornography from the rest.  Now anything seems to go.

What may be legally tolerated might not remain socially tolerated. I might not want to get involved in someone heavily enmeshed in pornography as a "collector". 



Pornography can be the guide to abusive, humiliating, destructive, exploitative sex.  


I think we can see the difference. One brings ephemeral delight, perhaps with much pain to the other. The other... well, it requires much sophistication.     

Quote:I think given the recent movements in our culture around consent, exploitation, and objectification being a far bigger deal than it was in prior decades, I think porn will start to move into being less accepted soon. Porn, along with sex-work in general, has varying degrees of acceptance or non-acceptance from country to country.

I can imagine people deciding that, upon discovering a trove of porn tucked away into a supposedly-hidden trove, to destroy it and confront tis owner. Then again, what does one call erotica that encourages and fosters the sort of sexuality that I see in the "Do you know the difference?" poster? 

If I had the talent for writing this I could make a fortune. 

Quote:I'm surprised to see nothing about environmentalism/climate or corporate power in this list. There has been some backlash in recent years especially in the LGBT community about corporations becoming a bigger presence at Pride events. I don't know how to feel about it. On one hand, it's nice to see more mainstream acceptance, but when does it become just about them doing it because they want more money?

Commercialism is an inextricable part of the American Way of Life. Everyone irrespective of sexual orientation is a potential market for commercial products from detergents to motor vehicles. Maybe even cars might have options more preferred among LGBT people in the various categories. 

It is better that identifiable groups be directions of advertising efforts than as objects of ridicule for commercial gain. It may have been profitable to ridicule gays and lesbians at one time in American media... I am glad that that is over. I've experienced homophobia directed at me, and it was not pleasant even if it got my orientation wrong. The anger and contempt scared me.

Think of mixed-race couples. Muskegon, Michigan has a tourist guide that features a mixed-race couple (black husband, white wife) and their biracial daughter -- on the cover. Not so long ago this would have been unthinkable, an abomination to a majority of Americans. There are far more such families now, and we might as well accept the reality. It used to be shocking; we now see it often and are compelled to adapt. 

This said, if I had a daughter there would be certain things red flags that I would warn her about in men. If he talks about women derisively, then that he sees her as an exception is most likely hypocrisy or a lie. "Bitch"? (Ironically, dogs are among the best mothers in the animal world, and they protect their puppies as ferociously as any bear or Big Cat). A piece of anatomy or the vulgar word for copulation? Run!