07-05-2021, 12:37 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-05-2021, 12:43 PM by Eric the Green.)
(07-05-2021, 04:41 AM)Captain Genet Wrote:(07-01-2021, 05:57 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(07-01-2021, 10:41 AM)Captain Genet Wrote:(07-01-2021, 09:51 AM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: Spiritual staleness is one thing young Prophets are reacting against, though this applies to both Dionysus and Apollo 2Ts. A commonality, actually, between different 2Ts.
In an Apollonian 1T, we have the spiritual staleness of a robot society. In a Dionysian one, the spiritual staleness of an endless party.
The Awakening of circa 1886-1908 was not a robotic society, at least not among people who were influenced by or involved in the Awakening, and the spirituality of the Awakening was anything but stale.
I guess, though, that you could say the industrial society that was strong and growing at this time was robotic. But the dominant industrial society was still not much less robotic in the 1960s and 70s, although the people involved in the Awakening were rejecting it and rebelling against it. Tim has it basically correct here.
You misunderstood me. I suggested a robotic society during a High not an Awakening. GI consensus was robotic, and Millennial consensus will likely look like an endless online party.
Staleness can continue during the Awakening among old Civics and some Artists who avoid a midlife crisis.
So it appears (I misunderstood you). But I think 1Ts are not that different from each other, and I don't know of any Dionysian "endless-party" 1Ts in history. The conspicuous consumption of the gilded age and the American High were as close to "parties" as we could get, and were not that different. The condition of society is already rapidly approaching roboticism today, courtesy of millennials and Xers who don't get the previous Awakening. The human potential and personal growth methods and the breakthrough of social and sexual walls have pretty much dried up, as far as I can see, and high rents destroy any alternative gathering places. Curiosity about life has been reduced again to physical science curiosity and tech obsession. Neil DeGrasse Tyson seems enough to satisfy them. And an online party is no party at all anyway. Virtual life is not life, but that appears to be the life that millennials prefer, and society is being taken in that direction along with them.
But I agree there is a degree of staleness during an Awakening, or anytime, especially in an essentially stale society like the USA. The turnings are just degrees of difference, and probably younger generations are more likely to respond to the mood of the times than old dogs and stuck in the muds.