07-08-2021, 03:11 AM
(07-07-2021, 02:19 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: What will constitute conservatism will change from the neoliberal economics and angry populism that melded in an incongruous, and ultimately shaky, composite. Figure that Barack Obama adopted many conservative characteristics (insistence upon protocol and precedent, acceptance of hierarchy of achievement, recognition of the validity of tradition even if such implies the acceptance of multiple traditions at once with no expectation of quick merger).
I also see Inclusivism developing some conservative characteristics:
-It views money and the commercial class as suspect, much like Catholicism or Confucianism
-It is critical of 3T pop culture's worship of youth and physical beauty, much like almost any traditional culture
-It tends to respect religions and traditions. I saw Randians and transhumanists mocking Mohammed many times, and SJWs would be quick to defend him. Of course SJWs are critical of Evangelical political involvement, but I never saw them mocking Jesus.
Still, Inclusivism does not promote personal responsibility for one's action like true conservatism does. Its main impulse is to blame society.
Quote:OK, now for the juicy stuff: pornography has always been suspect at best. It has usually been male-oriented because it fits the desires of frustrated men who either live in an all-male environment (ships, logging camps, prisons), are far from their spouse (traveling salesmen, and until rather recently long-haul truckers -- in recent times husband-and-wife teams have become commonplace), or have a desire for sexuality that dehumanizes or brutalizes women. If I were a woman I would insist upon a porn-free household. I can imagine pornography becoming more commonplace during the Plague of Donald Trump (COVID-19).
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By porn I speak not of the genteel stuff in which there is some effort to express the natural beauty of a nude body. It is probably true that fit girls of a certain age can look better without clothes than with them, or with very few clothes that might focus attention on... OK, if I had to tell a teenage girl about her vagina I would teach her that it is precious, wonderful, magnificent, and delicate, and certainly unsuited to abuse and exploitation. Porn is abuse and exploitation. There has been plenty of artistic nudity across the ages and across cultures. Such is not porn.
The fault with porn is that it usually disrespects women and ensures unsatisfying results for her should her partner try to enforce his fantasy upon her. Men tend to go numb during a heterosexual orgasm (I would never try to explain gay sex), so it is the woman who should be in command. It is her feelings and not his.
100& agreement here. Many men just have the desire to assert their authority over women, they get aroused from domination, and since it has become a crime IRL, they at least want to see it on screen. In all-male peer groups other men might pretend they like porn just not to come off as a weakling.
In extreme forms the same macho traits can lead to fascism, but they can also be used for good, as when a macho policeman asserts his domination over a criminal gang.