08-13-2021, 08:44 AM
(08-10-2021, 06:22 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:(07-08-2021, 03:32 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(07-07-2021, 05:01 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:I guess as a liberal I just think porn is not severe enough behavior to be cancelled or punished. It is also too likely to evade the law. I don't know if education will persuade your generation or not, but in the long run, it might persuade people. Your generation commits less crime; are you sure porn has not also declined in your generation already compared to older ones? I admit I don't frequent the internet outlets that millennials tend to do. Maybe porn having gained an outlet in your generation that did not exist before, it is availability that has increased, not the inherent appeal. I think community standards could be imposed on social media and internet sites, if it hasn't already. I block folks that put porn on the sites I read or send me porn stuff.(07-07-2021, 04:11 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Porn is not a good substitute for real life and real sexual experience. It's a bad influence. But is it the issue along with abortion to place at the top of a list of priorities? Is it the essence of the "wickedness" of our society? Must it be a matter for prohibition instead of zoning and education? I don't think so. The battle over culture is not as significant as the battle overHow will education change the issue in my generation? Only prohibition of most of it would work. It encourages perversions like cuckoldry. My generation isn't going to change unless most of it is cancelled.
1. whether we are going to have an environment and climate that sustains us and all life,
2. whether we are going to have an economy and health care system that works for most people instead of for a wealthy few,
3. whether we allow mass murders to expand exponentially because of our ammosexual gun obsession and permissive gun laws (guns are a much more destructive hobby than porn),
4. whether we are going to allow our president to start wars at his whim,
5. whether we are going to pour our resources into military and nuclear might or into social and infrastructure needs,
6. whether we are going to have democracy, or oligarchy through voter suppression and outdated election and government structures,
7. whether systemic racism and suppression of diversity and immigration will continue, or instead we develop police reform and an end to racial and gender wealth gaps and profiling,
8. Whether we can learn a truly new-age worldview that sees humans as interdependent within an alive and whole, conscious universe with many spiritual dimensions, which helps foster a loving relationship with ourselves and all life, instead of seeing humans either as dependent on one creator authoritarian God who is separate from us and our world, demands exclusive loyalty, and gives orders through churches and politicians, or on the other hand as mechanical bodies who might as well be robots in a lifeless world available for manipulation for merely-material goals,
9. etc.
Is this an ongoing shift, or just a consensus view for one generation that will soon pass to another one, and thus not really too significant?
Crime decreased because laws increased. People aren't magically better. I don't believe much in democracy because I know my views are in the minority in my generation. Since my views are in the minority and constantly disrespected by my generation, why should I value the same democracy that allows these people who disrespect me to have power over me? Why should I respect their views if they don't respect mine? Being in the minority in my generation absolutely made me much more hardline than I would have been otherwise.
That may be unpleasant for you, but your current support, and other Christian current support, for attacks on democracy, must be resisted at all costs, even including civil war or secession. Nor is there any justification for your conclusions and your disrespect for others; none at all! You are spoiling for a fight. And we will win! And your generation will turn the tide. The more you disrespect those you disagree with, the more they will disrespect you. Good luck with that.