08-19-2021, 11:43 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-19-2021, 11:51 AM by Eric the Green.)
I could never get the idea that 9-11 started a 4T. It just didn't. It was a return to the status quo of the American constant war since 1941, although in the 1980s and 90s this constant war was reduced to support for other warriors like the Nicaraguan Contras and Saddam Hussein's attack on Iran, and the enormous Reagan military buildup and some short interventions. The war on terror started then too. It just ramped up after 9-11, but that was just business as usual, and a war that was out of sight and out of mind. Domestic participation in the war was reduced to "we'll show the terrorists; we'll keep on shopping!" Even the Patriot Act affected very few people severely here in the USA. Nor was this any kind of new foreign policy; it was continued American imperialism-- given a new boost, but not a boost that could be sustained. When it was extended to Iraq, it was discredited. So, why would anyone think that 9-11 was the start of a Crisis era?
The pattern I see in past cycles is quite different; 4Ts usually start with economic crises or meltdowns, like the Great Depression, and war comes later. Like the economic disputes before the Revolution, or the 1857 Panic before the Civil War. So, the 2008 Great Recession was a near-exact replay of 1929, with the same causes. Laissez-faire then, neo-liberalism now. If this 4T ends with war, it will come in 2025. And just like the war on terror began during the 3T, as far back as 1985, so world war I began during the 3T in 1914. World War two continued world war I. Terrorism may be back in 2025, now that the terrorists have been released and empowered this month. Speeding up the saeculum to make 2001 equal 1929, is to shorten the saeculum to 72 years, at a time when all evidence shows that progress, which had driven the modern saeculum, is slowing down almost to a crawl or reversing.
Progress??? In the USA?????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvD0TgE34HA&t=1869s
The pattern I see in past cycles is quite different; 4Ts usually start with economic crises or meltdowns, like the Great Depression, and war comes later. Like the economic disputes before the Revolution, or the 1857 Panic before the Civil War. So, the 2008 Great Recession was a near-exact replay of 1929, with the same causes. Laissez-faire then, neo-liberalism now. If this 4T ends with war, it will come in 2025. And just like the war on terror began during the 3T, as far back as 1985, so world war I began during the 3T in 1914. World War two continued world war I. Terrorism may be back in 2025, now that the terrorists have been released and empowered this month. Speeding up the saeculum to make 2001 equal 1929, is to shorten the saeculum to 72 years, at a time when all evidence shows that progress, which had driven the modern saeculum, is slowing down almost to a crawl or reversing.
Progress??? In the USA?????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvD0TgE34HA&t=1869s
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