Trump's people have founded their Party:

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(09-09-2021, 06:14 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(09-09-2021, 12:12 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(09-08-2021, 11:15 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(09-08-2021, 09:46 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(09-08-2021, 01:28 PM)David Horn Wrote: Let's assume that the Trumpster is actually behind the Patriot Party and not just a willing participant in someone else's fantasy.  If so, then having this in his back pocket makes the GOP regulars less likely to buck him out right.  It appears, to them, that he has less to lose than they do, when the opposite is closer to the mark.  Without the GOP, Trump is just another blowhard without an audience.

What's the GOP without the 70 some million Trump supporters? I disagree, the GOP ain't shit without Trumps base.

Trump had no political base until he decided to run for President, largely due to spite against President Obama. (If you can think of a worse reason to seek the Presidency than to settle old scores or to get fantastically rich through corruption, then tell me). 

The GOP used to be known as the Party of Lincoln; oh, how it has fallen!

It is safe to assume that about 70 million of Trump's voters would have voted for practically any Republican nominee. In view of his old age and suspect health at the least, Republicans are going to need someone else as their exponent rather soon. 

Demographics do not favor the Trump base. It is already old, and for that reason it is shrinking every year. It has practically no youth appeal, and practically no appeal to young adults. Millennials and Boomers can get along so long as the Boomers don't exhibit extreme narcissism as does Trump. Millennial adults loathe his anti-labor, anti-environmentalist, and anti-education stances. 

Boomers deserve some credit for shaping Millennial attitudes, and Trump does not fail the values that Millennials sought to impart upon Millennial children. Trump is a man of cruelty, greed, and bigotry. he is the most despotic person that we have ever had as President. 

In my most cynical moment I expect the GOP and the Patriot Party to merge, if on the terms of the Patriot Party. I expect a disaster.

Yep, the GOP has been falling along with the Democratic party for a while now. It's just a matter of time before the American people begin to let go of them altogether. In case you're not up on current events, Trump didn't leave a bunch of Americans behind in Afghanistan. BTW, that's the primary difference between Democrats and Americans these days. You deserve what's coming dude. Biden did what an American would never do or accept as an outcome these days.

No, it is the neoliberal agenda into which the GOP bought in completely and tried to commit us all to that has failed. The economic doctrine of diminishing returns applies to public policies as well as to productive efforts and marketing. Democrats largely rejected neoliberalism because 

(1) it offered them little
(2) it offended their sensibilities, and
(3) liberals, by 1980 mostly Democrats, could see through it. 

As it was with the New Deal in the second-to-last completed era of the Skowronek cycle (the New Deal was highly effective early but by the end of the Carter Presidency it had spent itself and could solve no problems cheaply), so it is with the neoliberal era that begins with Reagan's "Morning in America", Trump was unable to make it work even though he had untried and untested ideas for his Presidency. Those ideas were untried and untested for very good reason... or rejected long ago. 

Trump bungled the response to COVID-19 as badly as was possible. Just watch the demographics of those contracting COVID-19 and dying of it: it is heavily people on the Right side of the political spectrum.

I don't know about that; I think a lot of Democrats are fine with neoliberalism, specifically the affluent ones who have thrived in the neoliberal regime. Consder this article which broke America down into four political factions:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc...as/619012/

These are the factions and my interpretation of them:

Smart America: left/Democrats who are happy with neoliberalism and want to stay 3T
Free America: right/Republicans who are happy with neoliberalism and want to stay 3T
Just America: left/Democrats who are unhappy with neoliberalism and want to go 4T
Real America: right/Republicans who are unhappy with neoliberalism and want to go 4T

I think the Patriot Party is Real America trying to break away from the GOP.