09-11-2021, 04:38 PM
(09-10-2021, 02:15 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(09-10-2021, 07:59 AM)David Horn Wrote:(09-09-2021, 05:34 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Smart America as you describe it does not exist. left/Democrats cannot be happy with neoliberalism, and are not. Neo-liberalism is exclusively a Republican program at this point. The Left is the opposite of laissez-faire, trickle-down economics. Affluent white Democrats are more radical at this point than Democrats of color. Real America does not exist as you describe it, either. Trump and his followers are as neo-liberal as could be; their policies are neo-liberalism on steroids. Read the 2016 Republican platform and see. The only difference from those merely deluded by neo-liberal Republican "freedom" slogans is that the Trump Republicans are also more-prejudiced. To tear down the administrative state as the Trumpists want-- and carried out in such places as the EPA and the Dept. of Education, is giving big business all the freedom it wants to exploit us and ruin our lives and our planet. And social conservatism/prejudice is at this point intimately connected with neo-liberalism, and has been all along. That is why the policy and slogan of cutting welfare and smaller government appeals to both of these supposedly-different factions. Opposition to welfare is the dog-whistle for prejudiced people to vote for less government, which is allowing business to have fewer taxes and regulations. That's also why Republicans rule the White South these days.
I'm going to disagree with you on this. Neoliberalism is a two-prong offensive:
It's not realy a party-centric thing. It's more capitalism centric. The entire point is shielding weath and power from popular backlash that could, and should, upset their little apple cart. Republicans have moved on to authoritarianism as their "final solution". Democrats are just now pulling up their big boy and big girl pants. It's sad that it had to go this far.
- Total libertarianism for business, including low to nonexistent taxes and regulation, and
- Liberal social positions, iincluding high support to diversity and other non-economic agendas.
... continuing, Eric wrote Wrote:Prejudice" is a convenient term I use which includes white supremacy, misogyny, homophobia, Christian Right, anti-immigrant and so on; and often this includes conspiracy theory and anti-vax these days. It's opposition to women's rights, ethnic rights, gay and transgender rights, rights for young people, immigrant rights, nationalist opposition to foreign trade, foreigners and alliances, support for Christian restrictions on other religions and on science, denial of climate change/rights of Nature, denial of science, etc. And since these groups they oppose get protection from the government, the prejudiced are neo-liberals who are against social government (and against democracy). A primary doctrine of neo-liberalism is self-reliance and the belief people should take care of themselves on their own and that only the strong survive (social Darwinism). This connects with neo-Nazis too, and with Christian emphasis on "building character."
The Left is social democracy and respect for diversity. The Right-wing is neo-liberalism and prejudice.
We are all 4T at this point. We can't go back.
I agree with all of this except the final thought. Yes, the left is for social democracy and diversity, but the RW (mostly Republicans) are really all-in on prejudice and power. Philosophy on that side be damned. They literally couldn't care less as long as they get to be in charge and be superior to "them". Of course, we're part of "them" so no quarter can be and certainly none given. Biden's decision to push the envelope on vaccination will be their new rallyiing cry, as they stand n the unemployment line. Question: will refusal to comply be considered a reason to receive benefits? I'll bet it will in places like Florida and Texas.
Neo-liberalism is mostly an economics ideology only, and supports this goal politically. Synonymns are free-market ideology, libertarian economics, trickle-down economics, Reaganomics, laissez faire, supply-side economics, social darwinism, rugged individualism. It is even more aggressive in its approach than its classical liberal background. I would think everyone here would know this by now. Neo-liberalism has zero to do with:
"Liberal social positions, including high support to diversity and other non-economic agendas."
As I explained, it aligned with the opposite of this, because neo-liberalism is against welfare spending, and this is a tempting, key slogan to get support from many more-poor white people for their promises of lower taxes and less government.
Much is made of Trump's one anti-neoliberal policy: opposition to free trade. But in every other respect, Trump is a neo-liberal, and he accelerated its policies, especially in its attack on the living world in favor of extractive industries.
Classic Xer is a neo-liberal. So is Xenakis. It is a conservative ideology despite its name. It's name derives from the classical liberalism of Adam Smith.
Neo-liberalism is the primary ideology of the Republican Party today. It did get some support during its heyday of power in the 1980s and 1990s from moderate Democrats, who bowed to its power and compromised with it. To a somewhat-lesser degree, so did Obama. The most neo-liberal Democratic president was Bill Clinton, under the guise of "New Democrat." But Clinton still campaigned against "trickle-down economics" vigorously and mentioned in his famous statement that "the era of big government is over" that "we can't go back to the time when people were left to fend for themselves", and he raised the minimum wage and the earned income credit among other more-"liberal" Keynesian or New Deal approaches. But his neo-liberal policies included support for George Bush's NAFTA bill and repeal of Glass-Steagall.
Again, Monbiot explains neo-liberalism here:
My essay gives a lot of background too:
http://philosopherswheel.com/freemarket.html
I'm not a Neo Liberal. I'm a Classical Liberal.