09-07-2016, 12:09 AM
(09-06-2016, 03:42 PM)Odin Wrote:(09-06-2016, 03:38 AM)Galen Wrote: FDR was the idiot that got the US into that war. The oil and scrap metal embargo virtually guaranteed that Japan would go to war with the US. It is also clear FDR knew the Pearl Harbor attack was coming. In that respect the Missionary Generation generation isn't much different, as long as they get what they want they really don't care about the body count, as long its not them. Ironically, it was the Lost that were the backbone of the anti-war protests in the time just before the Second World War.
It seems ironic that the generation that produced Patton would be less inclined to get GIs killed.
Fascism was a global threat that needed to be destroyed, FDR had far more foresight than the naive Isolationist idiots you are putting up on a pedestal.
Communism wasn't? If Adolph had not attacked the Soviet Union the then the odds were pretty good that Stalin would have attacked Germany with pretty much the same outcome. It was Operation Barbarossa that ended up breaking Nazi Germany so the outcome would have pretty much been the same. The Japanese were too obsessed with China to be a problem for the US and in fact wouldn't have bothered to attack if not for the embargo.
The somewhat larger Soviet Empire would have eventually collapsed for the same reason that it did in the nineties. It might have taken a bit longer but as I have pointed out before central planning is about the most certain way to kill an economy. In this respect Nazi Germany really wasn't all that different than the Soviet Union.
I will also note that Germany had no plans to attack the US until after the Pearl Harbor attack and the US Declaration of War on Japan.
I regard the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany to be about the same level evil and would have preferred to let them destroy each other. With a bit of luck the Soviet Union would have been in even worse shape afterwords and the nasty Cold War could have been avoided which might have prevented the creation of the military-industrial complex and police state we now have.
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If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises