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Grey Champions and the Election of 2016
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(11-18-2016, 09:01 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(11-17-2016, 09:56 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:
(11-17-2016, 08:22 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: ...As shown in the Confederacy, Germany, and Japan a 4T can go catastrophically badly with ruin of the economy, complete dissolution of the political order, and even loss of independence. And don't let me get into a discussion of Russia from the Bolshevik Revolution to the end of the Great Patriotic War or China in the Pacific War and the Communist Revolution. Sure, that can't happen to America, can it?
Germany and Japan were run by reactives.  I think if boom leaders keep things hobbling along long enough for reactives to take power in critical places, the reactives can probably start a war that they can't finish.

But Idealists can be nasty, too. In the Devil's Reich, Hitler had the legal butchers Wilhelm Frick and Otto Thierack -- and the man who practically transformed the Wehrmacht into the Nazi Army, Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel. The medical researcher Dr. Klaus Schilling would be hanged for barbarous medical experiments upon inmates of concentration camps. Romania had its Conducator Ion Antonescu, who allowed the slaughter of Jews in Moldavia and Transnistria. Thug Japan's Matsuoka was Prime Minister, and General Koki Hirota was in charge in Shanghai  during the Massacre of Shanghai.

Oh, absolutely.  Stalin was as nasty as Hitler or Tojo.

Nastiness isn't what causes people to start wars that they can't finish, though.  Rather, miscalculation is.  Hitler started WWII in Europe to fix his immediate problems - basically a need to shore up domestic support - without fully accounting for possible long term effects.
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What is a Grey Champion? - by Bob Butler 54 - 05-05-2016, 07:50 AM
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RE: A Test of Theory - by Ragnarök_62 - 08-13-2016, 04:43 PM
RE: A Test of Theory - by Mikebert - 08-14-2016, 09:10 AM

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