What will happen to people who rebel during the 1T

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(10-29-2016, 04:38 PM)disasterzone Wrote:

(10-28-2016, 03:12 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:

(07-19-2016, 10:45 AM)disasterzone Wrote: Like the people who don't follow the same social norms? Will they be persecuted and driven to the edges of society? It seems to be what's happening now. There seems to be this crazy emphasis on the borg mentality where everyone is supposed to be the same and nobody is supposed to have different needs or wants. However there also seems to be this hyper individualist mentality at the same time where people helping each other is frowned on. It's hell.

I think people tend to exaggerate the degree of conformity during a 1T. It's not that there is a monoculture, during a 1T, there is just a certain organic alignment. People are drained from The Crisis and just want to chill. For those who want to do something new and different during a 1T, there are outlets, in fact, dramatic outlets. Progress and the improving human condition take immense strides during a 1T:



I can't wait for the New Civics / Millennials to be completely in charge. I hope I live to see that day.

What I feel during this time is deprived and like I'm going through this time period for no reason. The 4T makes me want to have more during the 1T and makes me want as much as I can have. Is this common? It also makes me wanna conform less because there's no real "reward" to conforming these days other than the approval of people who want shallow relationships.

We all feel deprived of something. Few people get anything near what they want.

The usual 4T is a time of great hardship and potential loss. The big project of the time may be the survival of what matters most. Think of World War II. People quite doing Sunday drives when gasoline was rationed. People were told to not go to the store to get clothes to replace worn-out or damaged clothes, but instead to mend them. There could be food rationing. Abo9ve all, some people might need to die for the Fatherland to  defend it from invasion and subjection.

We see now some ugly politics characteristic of the beginning of a Crisis Era, one in which old compromises fail, and people get their stilettos out on things from abortion to 'gun rights'.

Here is a sample of what we deal with:

Quote:Robert Reich
October 28 at 5:22pm ·
Yesterday I spoke with a former Republican member of Congress whom I’ve known for years.
Me: What do you think of your party’s nominee for president?
He: Trump is a maniac. He’s a clear and present danger to America.
Me: Have you said publicly that you won’t vote for him?
He (sheepishly): No.
Me: Why not?
He: I’m a coward.
Me: What do you mean?
He: I live in a state with a lot of Trump voters. Most Republican officials do.
Me: But you’re a former official. You're not running for Congress again. What are you afraid of?
He: I hate to admit it, but I’m afraid of them. Some of those Trumpistas are out of their fu*king minds.
Me: You mean you’re afraid for your own physical safety?
He: All it takes is one of them, you know.
Me: Wait a minute. Isn’t this how dictators and fascists have come to power in other nations? Respected leaders don’t dare take a stand.
He: At least I’m no Giuliani or Gingrich or Pence. I’m not a Trump enabler.
Me: I’ll give you that.
He: Let me tell you something. Most current and former Republican members of Congress are exactly like me. I talk with them. They think Trump is deplorable. And they think Giuliani and Gingrich are almost as bad. But they’re not gonna speak out. Some don’t want to end their political careers. Most don’t want to risk their lives. The Trump crowd is just too dangerous. Trump has whipped them up into a g*ddamn frenzy.

The Corporate Right sponsored the Tea Party opposition to Barack Obama and used it to consolidate a partisan advantage that could deny practically any role for liberalism except in urban machine politics for the next few decades. It has also created an anger-driven Frankenstein monster that now scares its creators.

What Friedrich Hayek said of socialists --  the worst fate that can befall a socialist is that the wrong group of socialists takes power -- might apply to factions of the American Right. The stilettos are already out, and the safest situation for a conservative who still believes in the rule of law may be that the last politicians who still believe in it who can win the 2016 election -- liberals who now are the bulk of the Democratic Party -- win big.