What will happen to people who rebel during the 1T

[Marypoza]

(11-01-2016, 09:47 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(11-01-2016, 08:13 PM)taramarie Wrote:

(11-01-2016, 07:25 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(11-01-2016, 05:16 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(11-01-2016, 04:36 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: I'm a Boomer, and most of my time in the Boom Awakening was in a staid family in the rural Midwest, where one never got a chance to partake in much of the 2T.  I saw only a little loosening by may authoritarian, traditional farm-raised parents... and I got little chance to participate in the Boom Awakening.

I am not ready for another Awakening era. I can warn X and Millennial generations: you might begin to think the Boom Awakening quaint, much as I remember media suggesting that the Gay 90's (yes -- it really was called that, and that had nothing to do with homosexuality) were quaint. People had forgotten the booze and opiates. (As I said to one of the best-liked posters on the old Howe and Strauss forum, the poppy field in which Dorothy falls asleep from the narcotic effect of the poppies in The Wizard of Oz gives some indication of how booze-sodden and doped up America was in the Missionary Awakening, even if only through the patent medicines full of 'liquor and laudanum'  that could be sold with impunity before the Food and Drug Act of 1906).

Lost kids were often pushed into factory work if they were of the urban poor or pressed into farm work if in non-rich farm families. Lost kids from the economic elites couldn't understand what the hyped fun of young adults extending childhood was all about and found nothing.

Ah I do not think so if we are to take the apollonian/dionysian saeculum theory seriously. You guys messed things up culturally with no solution to fix what was messed up. The next prophets in America will be what we have over in my country currently; apollonian prophets. So, similar to your missionaries. They will be more organized. When I look at our boomers who are apollonians and look at what they are doing and compare them to the cultural mess that is the American boomers I have to say you guys are anything but quaint. I am appalled at the mess and appalled that these discussions still have to be said in this day and age and of all places, America. Worse still that there has been no solution, no resolve. Such is the fate of a dionysian group that can only create mess but cannot fix it. But that is the role for generations who crave law and order like myself. I do not see you American boomers as anything even comparable to "quaint." I see the opposite of that in fact. Two sides screaming at each other and pushing the destruct button on both sides pulling a nation apart even further for self serving gain. This is not the way to bring a country together. This is certainly not the way towards building a strong nation. I see dionysians as mess makers. Not worthy of the word "quaint." I could use that word though for our boomers who are more collective and love law making to fit round their ideals.

You seem to have a very rose colored view of the Missionary generation.  In some ways they were more extreme than Boomers; for example their war on drugs went much further than the Boomer one.  And WWII killed a lot of people.

I never said they were not more extreme. They were about law and order and they are much more organized than the horseshit division the boomers in America created in the culture with no resolution. WW2 was justified if you have paid attention to what went on during that time. I admire the missionaries much more than American boomers for these reasons. They actually had their shit together in comparison and ww2 was justified to fight against fascism.

There was as much division in the 1930s as there is now; it just got papered over during and after the war.  And the cause of WWII was the Treaty of Versailles, where of those on the Anglo American generational cycle, the Missionary Lloyd George outmaneuvered the Gilded Wilson

-- actually Wilson was a Progressive, but yeah he got out manuvered