02-03-2018, 06:17 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-03-2018, 06:20 AM by Eric the Green.)
(02-03-2018, 05:37 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(01-29-2018, 09:41 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Although I agree due process should be used, my thought remains that in the case of gun rights, we should err on the side of taking them away. Few if any countries allow that "right" to the extent that we in the USA do. A gun confers too much power to kill on the person possessing it. Such a "right" needs to be qualified even more than are other rights, which are also qualified by law. A person on a no fly list was placed there for a reason. It is usually not arbitrary. I wouldn't mind though, if better due processing was used to draw up the no fly list, if it's believed that this process is too arbitrary. A few people have been put on that list just because they are political radicals of some sort.
The Constitution was written during a relatively brief period of time when rights were taken very seriously. It contains the words "shall not be infringed", which is only one reason not to infringe it. Yes, the blue world view contradicts the Constitution, but the red view, in this case, does not. While much water has gone beneath the crude bridge that arches the flood, rule of law is basic, and should not be dismissed lightly. I am open to seeing the force of the 2nd reduced, but you should go through one of the procedures outlined to change the Constitution, not blatantly assume that the blue world view is so superior to the red.
Oh come now, Mr. Butler, of course the blue world view is superior to the red......
No constitutional rights are without qualification, and are open to legal adjustments without constitutional amendments. Even the Scalia Court admitted that the 2nd did not mean gun control was illegal. There is no contradiction to the Constitution going on with any of what the "blue" side is proposing these days. It's true *I myself* might like to go further, and that indeed might involve revising or amending the Constitution, but Americans are not ready for this yet.