"Climax" year of each turning

[Kinser79]

(05-19-2020, 12:33 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(05-18-2020, 08:49 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:

(05-18-2020, 05:54 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(05-16-2020, 10:30 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: … As for the whole "progressivism is the way to go thing" for lack of a better term, you'll find the Boomers on here, and in particular the Blue ones, are blind to the fact that what is and is not progressive is determined after the fact.  History is after all written by the victors.

This is true, but what transformational agenda does the Trump/GOP have on tap?  It looks awfully corrupt and revanchist to me. Can that be defined as any form of progress? I say no … hell no!

Trump's agenda and faction is American Nationalism.  This means controlling immigration, controlling trade and high tariffs.  Is it corrupt?  Probably.  Revanchist?  Not so much.  Unless you consider taking back premier place in the world's economy revenge.  American Nationalists aren't very interested in war in foreign countries, or foreigners in general for that matter.

One could call it isolationist, but isolationism is the opposite of revanchism.

No, Trump's policy preferences are essentially all about him, and his grievances. That's my basis for citing revanchism. Trump is always looking to advantage DJT at the expense of <insert the preferred villain and pettifog of the moment>.

So what you're saying is you're using a word and don't know the meaning of said word. I'm going to assume that you are simply a clueless boomer and didn't bother to look up a word you decided to use to make yourself appear smarter than you actually are. The result of course is you look foolish.

Protip--if you're unsure of anything Google That Shit. No Seriously...Google That Shit. All the cool kids are doing that these days. And why shouldn't they? With the interweb-tubes-thingy every public toilet may as well be the Library of Congress. There is no excuse for using a word that has a specific meaning in correctly. No excuse at all.

Unless of course your goal is to look like a fool. Then by all means carry on.

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(05-18-2020, 05:59 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(05-17-2020, 09:26 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: … Regarding democracy I'm fine with a republic having democratic institutions so long as those with the votes are those who pay the taxes.  Otherwise there will come a time when the unenlightened and and property-less will discover that they can vote themselves the property of others.

I'm fine with human rights so long as it is limited to life, liberty and the pursuit of property.

Wow! When you swing politically, its all the way.

Not hard when you realize that given universal suffrage the have-nots will eventually figure out a way to vote themselves the property of the haves.  Then you get Venezuela.  Since I'm not interested in the US becoming Venezuela Del Norte it is best to limit the franchise.  I figure we could probably swing property requirements though I'd prefer restricting the franchise to Veterans in the same vein of Heinlein's Starship Troopers.

H-m-m-m. Heinlein was a disabled Navy vet, and this brief period in his life had lasting impact on him. His politics, on the other hand, was mercurial, being a hard lefty Democrat at one point, and a hyper libertarian later on. That aside, I don't see why only the propertied class should vote, since political decisions tend to favor that class 90% of the time anyway. The rest of us need an oar in the water too, and, every once in a while, we should take the opportunity to throw the greedy out on their respective ears.

As I said I'd prefer to limit the franchise to Veterans. I highly recommend reading the book, or at the very very least watching the 1997 film. Though with the film you have to bear in mind that the directer didn't read the book and kinda went with a Nazi aesthetic because he thought it chic. Honestly it is rather unfortunate that Hitler had Hugo Boss and other top tier clothing designers in Germany to come up with uniforms for them. Say what you want about the Nazis they were fashionable.

You see I'm not interested in what the have-nots have to say. Not one bit. If they don't have then they need to go get and until they do I simply don't have time for them. But then again that might be the difference between a Prophet and a Nomad. There are "winners" and "losers" and I'm fine with that--my job is to make sure I'm not a "loser".