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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
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(06-06-2020, 12:21 PM)Isoko Wrote: Ghost,

Personally I don't think the 3T started in 1980. I think the 3T started in 2001. The reason for this is that by Western standards, life from 1950 - 2001 was one of the greatest periods to be alive in. Up until 2001 I would argue that in essence people's lives were actually improving. It feels entirely more like one big 2T if I'm honest.

After 2001 things just kept on slowly getting worse for the West. I remember quite well how each year, the West started to become even more worse off. Yet the "Crisis" never came. Not until 2020. 

It goes against Strauss and Howe but must we all be dogmatic about this and accept it as the literal truth? Can deviations not at all be possible?
3T even had influences earlier than 1980. Probably even as early as 1977.

Many of today's big name franchises started in the mid-late 70's, like Hello Kitty (started in 1974 but came to the US in 1976), Star Wars (started in 1977), and Garfield (started in 1978).

VHS tapes, a major 3T thing, came to the US in 1977.

The Atari 2600, likely the first major successful video game console, also came out in 1977.
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by Ghost - 06-06-2020, 01:37 PM

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