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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
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2015 leading into 2016 was clearly 4T

It may be that the 3T went longer, and also that the 4T is shorter.

Even if one argues that the reaction to 2008 was 3T, the 4T is well underway by the time Trump rolled into the Republican primaries.

The rise of Bernie and the fall of Hillary are both very clearly 4T as well
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by User3451 - 06-07-2020, 09:26 AM

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