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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
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LPDec63 Wrote:
(06-10-2020, 11:09 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:
(06-10-2020, 09:35 AM)LPDec63 Wrote: I believe the next election is going to be a major catalyst, not a resolution.  If there is to be violence, it will be because of Team Red's armed militias, or Team Blue raising up in anger if there are election shenanigans.  (I think the only way Red wins is Shenanigans.)  And I believe that Reds will not lay down gently with a Blue win.  They are fueled by Internet Trolls and Conspiracy theories that literally say Hillary Clinton leads a child sex slavery ring and that Bill Gates wants to inject control chips in everyone through vaccines.  (I'm not kidding, there are millions that believe things like this.)

If?  Don't you mean when?  The pertinent question is whether the shenanigans and the slavery compromises will be strong enough to rescue Trump.  The way it is looking now, the answer is no.

But middle America has been accepting election results.  I suspect also that many are leaning blue this time in order to get a scientific response to the bug and racist violence curbed in the police.  I don't doubt that many believe the conspiracy theories, but the crisis issues seem stronger.

I guess we'll see November 4th whatever follows this election.  I think it is a "Rendezvous with Destiny" moment.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans have done their voter suppression thing too much, that it will become an issue worthy of promotion to the front burner in 2021.  

For example, the recent Iowa state primary was the most successful they ever had.  Many more votes were cast.  The election commissioner had noted the virus, asked how he should respond, then mailed out applications for vote by mail ballots.  Many responded.  The result was a record.  What was the Republican response?  They introduced a bill in the legislature which would ban the state from taking this approach in the future.

Most voting is under control of the states.  Congress can't write one bill to fix it.  Still, as they come to dominate in a hypothetical future, the Democrats might coordinate a response.
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by Bob Butler 54 - 06-10-2020, 02:32 PM

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