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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
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(06-18-2020, 01:55 PM)Mikebert Wrote:
(06-17-2020, 03:50 PM)TnT Wrote: Whenever the hell it started, we sure are in it now, and it has all the makings of "putting all the cards on the table," as the theory suggests is probable.

I agree. But it makes a huge difference whether this early in the 4T (meaning there is still time for change to occur) or we are late in the 4T in which the "change" was a collective decision to NOT change and go gently into that good night as a nation.

We are in the middle of the 4T, so neither applies. A decision to "change" was obviously made in 2008, and Obama said "change has come to America."

And it did. But since our 4T is not one in which the country is uniting, but one in which we must fight it out between ourselves, the fight commenced. The nation is divided, and that's the crisis. One side holds on to the late-Awakening counter-revolution led by Ronald Reagan (Classic Xer and Warren Dew here, for example, and the Tea Party and Trumpists), and the other side seeks to continue the Revolution begun in the early Awakening (a few of us blue boomers here, for example, and candidates like Warren, Sanders and even Biden). We have a decade yet in which change will occur, and it must. The nation must act or fade away; the choice will be made (and already IS being made) in the 2020s.

The movements of the sixties are rising again in the USA and worldwide. And tolerance for inaction on this national agenda is weakening. Demographics are slowly giving an advantage to the blue team, and the red team's abominable choices of leadership is wearing thin. Resistance to this agenda continues, however, among the slowly-fading but still-fanatical red team. 

The movement for gun control that started with the shooting of RFK rises again with every big gun massacre, and the clarion call for action was sounded after the Parkland school shooting, even as the USA's national gun obsession continues. Black Lives Matter continues the black power agenda of the Awakening, and momentum is on their side now. But racism is hard to extinguish, and police are justifiably respected, so real action will depend on the elections, as everything does. The climate crisis is even worse than predicted, and its effects will not stop, and thus the climate strike will continue and grow while the deniers are dug in. The battle over health care reform continues, exacerbated by the pandemics that continue because there's no national leadership. The advocates of the counter-revolutionary Reaganomics are hooked on the wealth and power it promises or provides them, while younger and more diverse populations suffer in the resulting inequality and become ever more socialistic and supportive of the old Awakening McGovern proposals. Wars will threaten, and the battle over the MIC and US intervention can happen again. "The line it is drawn, the curse it is cast. The battle outside raging will soon shake your windows and rattle your walls, and the first one now will later be last, for the times they are a'changin.' "
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by Eric the Green - 06-18-2020, 02:50 PM

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