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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
(06-29-2020, 10:14 AM)David Horn Wrote: If we look back at how the previous triggers were defused and responses arrayed against each other, it's not surprising that it took something straight forward and devastating as watching a man die in front of us to overcome the ability of the manipulators to manipulate, though the RW talking heads are still giving it their best. I think 2008 was the real trigger, and the replay we're in now is making that clear.  That said, I still have a hard time knowing where this goes beyond the 2020 election.  Dems are notorious for dropping the ball.

2008 was not the real trigger. It did not make the new values, a regeneracy or the crisis heart nigh on inevitable. Obama chose not to go after the Wall Street people, and lost the congress, thus the endless red - blue debate went on.

A catalyst, sure. It shaped how everybody viewed the economy. The trigger, no.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by Bob Butler 54 - 06-29-2020, 10:36 AM

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