06-26-2017, 10:22 PM
(06-26-2017, 04:31 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: We're seeing a much longer road to the Regneracy this time around. This is mainly due to the two term rule for Presidents. That changed everything. We are never going to see another FDR or New Deal. We will only see watered down versions, that will hit late in the game. This is why everyone who believes that just because our 21st Version of the America Firsters ousted the Dems, therefore America Firsters will rule the Regeneracy, are highly naive. The US is not a majority tin foil, Isolationist, America Firster country. Blow back is a bitch. The blow back to Trumpists will be "yuuuuuuge."
When the 1T comes, the word conservative and its derivatives will apply to something very different from the economically-elitist, anti-rational, selfish, destructive ideas that many of us associate with the word and its derivatives. Donald Trump will be an example of everything that could go wrong in American political life. The word will apply to respect for precedent and protocol, caution in foreign policy, making sure that people have a stake in the system so that they want to make contributions, having ties to a defined community, thrift, distrust of public and private debt, and respect for learning. Except for mass thrift (because Obama could not solve the problem of mass poverty through millions being paid far too little to put even small amounts of money aside) that sounds more like Obama than like any other President since Eisenhower.
That also suggests that middle-class members of minority groups will have a big role in shaping American culture, values, and politics. Many have already set the pattern for the 1T, and when middle-class white people start recognizing that they have much more in common with middle-class members of minority groups at least by culture, then politics will follow. Only then will the Regeneracy be underway.
Obama was as pre-seasonal as a President could be. It's hard to see what season Trump fits. I question whether he will live long enough to see the full repertory of derision that he will have as "Dolt 45"... and if he does live long enough he will probably be too deep into dementia to recognize the derision for what it is.
America will have learned a harsh lesson from Trump: Never trust a demagogue. Civics lessons around 2025 and later will show him as a warning to later generations.
I can predict two big changes in American life by 2030: first, that Americans will insist upon solid pay for their toils. The second is that people will be paying cash for what they get and putting a little aside. Small savers are slightly conservative; they don't want inflation to gut their savings, but neither do they want high unemployment to force them to eat their savings or turn to loan sharks. The payday-loan, rent-to-own, and car title loan rip-offs will be as rare around 2030 as they were around 1955.
Quote:BTW - I am actually a Rightist ... but I ain't no America Firster, I hate Trump, and I am the type of Righty who will play ball during the Regeneracy ... because it's the patriotic thing to do!
You are the sort of right-winger that will fit well under the next Eisenhower-style President.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.