(12-23-2016, 11:43 AM)Mikebert Wrote: 2008 seems plausible as a 4T start for the same reasons 911 seemed plausible until 2008 displaced it as a bigger event more pregnant with possibility. Nothing on the scale of 2008 has happened since 2008, yet. But we haven't had a recession since 2008. We haven't seem what the post-2008 economy does when faced with a cyclical downturn. If we get another financial crisis or other big debacle then 2008 will no longer be seen as the special thing it appears to be now.
I have no objection to the notion of turnings as an analog process defined by these shifts in mood and generationally constellations, with the big headline events useful markers, nothing more. That being said you're still just engaging in hand-waving. In what way has the course of recent events departed from the 4T script as laid out by S & H? Why are we "running out of time" for it to be valid?