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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
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(02-03-2018, 06:17 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Oh come now, Mr. Butler, of course the blue world view is superior to the red......

I believe, for example, that global warming and the need to acknowledge the post scarcity way of business are very much real.  We are going to see a lot of what is considered holy writ thrown away.  It is not clear that the 2nd can be thrown in the bucket of certainty.  Every time the statistics are thrown around, you fail for good reason to carry your point.

(02-03-2018, 06:17 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: No constitutional rights are without qualification, and are open to legal adjustments without constitutional amendments. Even the Scalia Court admitted that the 2nd did not mean gun control was illegal. There is no contradiction to the Constitution going on with any of what the "blue" side is proposing these days. It's true *I myself* might like to go further, and that indeed might involve revising or amending the Constitution, but Americans are not ready for this yet.

I have spoken often of world views that specify how things work, and values which specify things worth striving for.  Nebraska seems to use jingoes, brief snippets of wisdom which sometimes echo the above, sometimes are opposed by opposite snippets held highly by rivals, and are sometimes out and out lies frequently shown by reality to be false.  The three seem definitely related.  My quest has been to find the wisdom of those in opposition and incorporate their wisdom into a more complex system.  In my quest, I find too much stubborn hear-me-not partisanship.  I have called it values lock.  It has been called many things.  People are so certain of their own snippets of wisdom that the will lock anything that conflicts and not change.  The red, blue, green, scientific and evangelical perspectives are a few among many.

I try to avoid word like 'certainty'.  Such words might imply that one need not listen, one need not understand, that it is the other guy that has a problem.  I have encountered often the conservative saying what has been is good enough.  I have encountered progressives who think we should do better.  I have seen selfishness as a major ingredient of both.  I have seen people blind to reality chasing impossible dreams.  The result is a mess.

Some blues are attempting to do what can be done, close loopholes, deny the felon, attempt to find and apply the law to the mentally incompetent.  Some fail to follow the Law as written, so certain they are right as to cripple rule of law, to make impossible living together.

You and I are not among the latter.  This does not imply those who have swung otherwise do not exist.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.
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RE: Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure - by Bob Butler 54 - 02-03-2018, 08:35 AM

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