04-17-2018, 07:44 PM
(04-17-2018, 06:42 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(04-16-2018, 11:26 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:Temperate ways could have taken a hundred years or more. Temperate ways could have eventually freed the slaves too. But, as we know, temperate ways didn't free the slaves either. So, I doubt temperate ways are going to free you from capitalism or free you from guns either. I'm not sure what freedoms of yours are threatened by my 2nd Amendment right. Is it the freedom for blues to take from anyone they want and take away from others for any reason without concern of being shot like criminals? Honestly, I don't think you have a greater risk of being shot/hurt by a gun than hit/hurt by car.(04-16-2018, 04:29 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(04-16-2018, 11:51 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: The definitive solution is a less violent, more life-affirming culture.The west wasn't won by love. Your freedom wasn't won by love.
Colonists went to war when they might have gained freedom in more temperate ways. Maybe the Revolution taught Britain a lesson and they let many of their colonies become commonwealth members. Not all of them though.
You're right; temperate ways take more time. Patience is a virtue, and violence is not. But in our world, sometimes things happen and need to get done. If we progress, then temperate ways work more often. I want some kinds of guns outlawed, and others restricted to those qualified to own or carry them. Temperate ways should work, unless opponents to these measures rebel violently against them. But no total gun ban will ever work unless there's overwhelming consensus for this, and the USA is not Japan yet.
If "second amendment right" means the right of anyone to own weapons of war, then the threat it poses is to the safety of my fellow citizens, or me, at virtually any place in the USA.