11-20-2018, 12:10 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-20-2018, 12:11 AM by Eric the Green.)
(11-19-2018, 09:07 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(11-19-2018, 08:29 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Not yet, but "prohibition" of AR-15s and other war weapons might well happen within the next decade sometime.
There you go again. Blaming the weapon is not in the realm of psychologists, with declaring an individual a risk.
There are any number of people, including an alcohol prohibition era Supreme Court precedent, which identify "war weapons" as the most protected by the Second. The militia, which is charged among other things with repelling invasions, must have personal access to the most common firearms used by armies. You need an amendment (or at least a stacked Supreme Court willing to legislate from the bench) to end that.
No, Bob is not correct. Weapons of war don't belong on the streets or in individual's gun collections. Owning weapons of war is not protected by the constitution. The militia consisted of citizens with muskets; AR-15s are not the same; they are killing machines. And reminding us that militias were needed to repel invasions also reminds us of how out of date the Second is. It needs to be repealed someday, yes. But No, we don't need armed citizens to repel invasions anymore. Citizen armies are not legal; that's why Koresh was attacked. And the Black Panthers too in the late sixties.
And mass murderers are not a well-regulated militia. That's all AR-15s are used for: mass murder. They are useless otherwise, and certainly have nothing to do with any "sport." Assault weapons bans were legal for 10 years; the ban should have been permanent, that's all. But since confiscation is not in the cards, bans on sales is all we can do. It's a start.
But you two don't seem ready to budge from your values lock on this issue, but it's also useless for you to argue with me about it. But we do it for the spectators, I guess, assuming there are any who may have open minds. They are hard to come by on the internet these days. But no, people are coming to their senses and will realize that weapons of mass murder should be outlawed, legally and in accordance with the constitution, and that the weapons facilitate the crime.