12-10-2018, 11:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-11-2018, 12:12 AM by Eric the Green.)
(12-10-2018, 11:43 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(12-10-2018, 11:07 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(12-10-2018, 06:09 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: If that's what you believe and how you view things, why do you support the idea of giving more Islamic's the right to immigrate to this country and support the right of Islamic immigrants to remain living in this country after seeing/experiencing what a few Islamic crazies have already done? Gee, I've never suggested we that we ban all Islamic's or round them all up and ship them back to where they came from.
We had a restrictive but generally fair immigration policy under Obama. Nothing that the current interloper does is in any way reasonable. Arbitrary discrimination against travelers and immigrants from a few Muslim countries that the Orange Menace doesn't do business with has nothing to do with a good policy to deal with crazies.
Unfortunately, too many who think in the old way believe arbitrary discrimination is reasonable. There are many who will not or can not distinguish between an Iranian who worked for the Americans when they were occupying Iran and some Islamist who drove an airplane into an American building. Once upon a time, in the days of "no Irish need apply", and it was hardly better to be black or Chinese, that way of prejudiced thinking was the norm. It is part of the reason I dislike the blue late night 'humor' that teaches stereotyping against reds.
Then again I see the threat lurking in any smile, in any humor. Did you know that some researchers believed the smile was originally a threat display, a bearing of teeth, a willingness to use force in a day when teeth were a threat? Only much later did external weapons like the hand axe or bows make teeth obsolete, not a threat. A bearing of teeth became sign that there was no serious threat present, that if it were one would get weapons at ready.
The blue humorists are holding up the red side in ridicule. It can be a sign of exercizing superiority over one's opponent, or fearlessness in its face. But, for sure, if the red side didn't present so many opportunities for ridicule, which you must admit must be some kind of an all-time record, then they would be happy to ridicule the blues just as they always have gone after both sides. And they continue to do so (witness Bill Maher's ridicule of blues who interrupt Republicans while they are eating dinner, as well as his ridicule of political correctness). That of course is not teaching stereotyping, but just holding up the red behavior to the light of truth and exaggerating it for humorous effect. The essential element that makes us laugh is surprise. A good political humorist like Colbert or Meyers will say something about the powers-that-be that is true, but is a bit more than we expect him to say. And without them, the blue side would have almost no representation in the public sphere today. So they are performing a HUGE service. Speaking truth to power is invaluable under a regime which could soon be imposing a dictatorship upon us. And since I enjoy them so much, you can be sure I will counter your statements about them.
Sorry we continue to disagree again, but we usually don't resolve our differences of opinion; nor do you nor I nor anyone else today resolve any differences of opinion in online discussions. Or even in any other discussions. It is a condition of our society and especially our generation today.