11-19-2021, 01:46 AM
(11-18-2021, 05:45 PM)David Horn Wrote:(11-18-2021, 03:02 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(11-16-2021, 11:13 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:(11-16-2021, 09:47 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: There is no current anomaly. Events and generations are right on schedule.
But the demise of bad 3T behavior, a hallmark of a typical 4T, has been agonizingly slow. At this, both Boomers and X can share blame.
Yes indeed; however the double rhythm idea does have some relevance. I call this the Uranus/Neptune Return combo. This means the civil war is the 4T most like our own "cold civil war" 4T. If we extend this 4T back to 1850, then we have been in the 1850s redux for some time now. We're past bleeding Kansas now. And certainly, "bad 3T behavior" extended into the 1850s and then made the civil war necessary, unlike in the 1930s when FDR was able to hold back the proponents of continuing the 3T. In our saeculum, this "bad behavior" is justified and defended by neoliberal/free-market philosophy.
I agree with this, and I'm not a believer in astrology. The singular issue I see is the awareness of the cycle making it nearly impossible to complete -- Steve Bannon being a prime example. In the past, the cycle has existed because it was hidden and the forces driving it obscure. That's no longer the case.
I'm not postulating that this is true, merely that it needs to be considered seriously.
It could be true; however, what strikes me is how on-schedule the saeculum is, even considering that the progressives have not united the country as they did in the 1930s. Steve Bannon seems determined to make the fourth turning prophecy come true, in fact, by provoking another civil war-- as he has just done again after his indictment, and Gosar and other Republicans are singing his tune or enabling it. They seek to destroy the progressive trend of most 4Ts, but that always happens. The fourth turning is always a battle between various forces of progress and forces of obstruction and chaos. The most powerful obstruction is either mostly domestic or mostly foreign, and usually some of each. The progressive side in the last 2 months has been in retreat, and it has to regroup and fight on in this still-cold, un-civil war.