"Climax" year of each turning

[Eric the Green]

(04-02-2020, 11:51 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(04-02-2020, 05:35 AM)Blazkovitz Wrote:

(04-01-2020, 02:23 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: The Regeneracy in this 4T is happening among the people. 3T rulership has been too entrenched this time, much as it was in the civil war 4T which began in 1850 or earlier. The resistance to Trump in the women's marches, the March for Our Lives rally (and these were the biggest marches ever and had worldwide participation), the climate rallies, the 2018 midterms, and Bernie's campaign, and people-power movements worldwide in 2019, will be put into action during the 2020s.

So the Regeneracy is basically "activism" becoming a part of ordinary people's life?

This is why I dislike the Civic archetype, their herd-oriented mindset doesn't appeal to me. I prefer the Xer approach of solving problems by yourself.

Except truly serious problems cannot be solved that way.  Could WW-II have been won through individual effort? Of course not.  The same is true for COVID-19.

That's right. Personal problems can be solved by yourself, perhaps with a good teacher or counselor. But some problems are collective and need a collective solution. Of course, that means participation by individuals making the decision to do so. And of course today's libertarian neo-liberal right wing promotes the idea that collective problems can be solved by individuals, as when they say that rather than asking the government to do things, we should just vote by how we shop. Or just let business do what it wants without paying taxes and the benefits will trickle-down. Won't work. Entrepreneurs and individual inventors do contribute a lot, but in such times as ours it's not enough. The civic archetype is becoming a dominant force at the time that collective solutions are needed. That obviously applies to the COVID-19 event. People need to follow guidelines and rules issued by the government. Otherwise, if people behave as individuals, they are endangering themselves and others.

According to The Fourth Turning, whereas nomad Generation X helped nurture individual risk-taking and adventure in the freewheeling 3T era in youth and helped make it as exciting as it was, creating Xtreme sports and such, Gen X nomads are now supposed in mid-life to apply the skills they learned as can-do risk-takers and pragmatic, ad-hoc adaptive entrepreneurs to becoming good situation-managers and officers during the crisis, applying their skills to serve the community and the needs of society in the 4T crisis. It can be a difficult adjustment for nomads, but they aren't so young anymore, and thus they feel more responsible, or at least that was/is the hope of the T4T authors. I watch Gov. Newsom in action and he seems to fill the bill nicely.