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(07-30-2016, 01:17 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Taramarie is not the only one who goes on about "younger people are the future." I have as much hopes for millennials as she does. As our bloated friend with the bloated ego who now wants to rule the world says, "believe me!" However, they are not making the future now, because in the USA they don't vote in midterm elections when legislatures are gerrymandered. We are all stuck with the results: the boomers and silents and Xers are making the future right now. And guess what, when the "younger people" grow up, they will also have younger people shouting at THEM, "we are the future; your ideals have to be agreeable to US, because WE are the future!" No, it takes all generations alive at any one time to make a future. And this "future" might as well be the present, it comes upon us so quickly!

True but we certainly will influence the future to be something quite different I am sure. Just as the boomers did in the 60s to now. Xers also have had their mark to the present and so will millennials. Even more so as I believe that generation is even larger than the boomers.
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(07-30-2016, 11:22 AM)Odin Wrote: I'll take drug-fueled hippie orgies over the Social-Darwinist hellscape people like Galen, want. And I am a person who generally disapproves of drug-fueled orgies. Rolleyes 

I am so sick of the childish whining of all the right-wing Xers about how the hippies ruined their childhoods who then turn around and accuse us Millennials of being childish whiners.

I know it is annoying. But xers also are not going anywhere and boomers are aging. We will be stuck with it. That hatred depending on how many feel that way about boomers will no doubt shape the future.
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(07-30-2016, 02:16 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(07-30-2016, 01:17 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Taramarie is not the only one who goes on about "younger people are the future." I have as much hopes for millennials as she does. As our bloated friend with the bloated ego who now wants to rule the world says, "believe me!" However, they are not making the future now, because in the USA they don't vote in midterm elections when legislatures are gerrymandered. We are all stuck with the results: the boomers and silents and Xers are making the future right now. And guess what, when the "younger people" grow up, they will also have younger people shouting at THEM, "we are the future; your ideals have to be agreeable to US, because WE are the future!" No, it takes all generations alive at any one time to make a future. And this "future" might as well be the present, it comes upon us so quickly!

True but we certainly will influence the future to be something quite different I am sure. Just as the boomers did in the 60s to now. Xers also have had their mark to the present and so will millennials. Even more so as I believe that generation is even larger than the boomers.

Too much is attributed to generations when it comes to what happens in the past and future. The future at any time is being created now, by all the generations alive now. In our times, there are plenty of people alive even in the generational type that's supposed to be absent (in our turning, that's the adaptives or artists). And the other three types are all contributing now.

But one generation is not just like another. Just like one piece of music is not just like another. The cycle continues, and which turning you come of age in matters, and which turning you are mature and powerful in matters too. How a generation influences the future depends on which turning they are in when they do it.

The Awakening creates the visions and ideals of where society needs to go. The Crisis carries them out and makes them work in the course of struggle between the new visions and the status quo.

Right now, in the 4T, millennials are helping (along with Xers and Boomers who are still awake) to make the 2T visions real and practical and defeat the status quo. In the next 2T, many millennials will be defenders of the status quo against the new visions, as well as activists for change within the institutions they helped to build during the previous 4T and 1T. But some younger millennials will also be among the instigators of the new 2T visions, when the next 2T arrives.

In order to create a vision of where society needs to go, people must experience an Awakening.

Strauss and Howe described the contrast between Awakenings and Crises and related to the archetype of the battle between the Caesar and the Christ. Millennials (civics/heroes) are more about the Caesar, and Boomers/the next prophets or idealists are more about the Christ.
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(08-05-2016, 01:11 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(07-30-2016, 02:16 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(07-30-2016, 01:17 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Taramarie is not the only one who goes on about "younger people are the future." I have as much hopes for millennials as she does. As our bloated friend with the bloated ego who now wants to rule the world says, "believe me!" However, they are not making the future now, because in the USA they don't vote in midterm elections when legislatures are gerrymandered. We are all stuck with the results: the boomers and silents and Xers are making the future right now. And guess what, when the "younger people" grow up, they will also have younger people shouting at THEM, "we are the future; your ideals have to be agreeable to US, because WE are the future!" No, it takes all generations alive at any one time to make a future. And this "future" might as well be the present, it comes upon us so quickly!

True but we certainly will influence the future to be something quite different I am sure. Just as the boomers did in the 60s to now. Xers also have had their mark to the present and so will millennials. Even more so as I believe that generation is even larger than the boomers.

Too much is attributed to generations when it comes to what happens in the past and future. The future at any time is being created now, by all the generations alive now. In our times, there are plenty of people alive even in the generational type that's supposed to be absent (in our turning, that's the adaptives or artists). And the other three types are all contributing now.

But one generation is not just like another. Just like one piece of music is not just like another. The cycle continues, and which turning you come of age in matters, and which turning you are mature and powerful in matters too. How a generation influences the future depends on which turning they are in when they do it.

The Awakening creates the visions and ideals of where society needs to go. The Crisis carries them out and makes them work in the course of struggle between the new visions and the status quo.

Right now, in the 4T, millennials are helping (along with Xers and Boomers who are still awake) to make the 2T visions real and practical and defeat the status quo. In the next 2T, many millennials will be defenders of the status quo against the new visions, as well as activists for change within the institutions they helped to build during the previous 4T and 1T. But some younger millennials will also be among the instigators of the new 2T visions, when the next 2T arrives.

In order to create a vision of where society needs to go, people must experience an Awakening.

Strauss and Howe described the contrast between Awakenings and Crises and related to the archetype of the battle between the Caesar and the Christ. Millennials (civics/heroes) are more about the Caesar, and Boomers/the next prophets or idealists are more about the Christ.
No disagreement here. But the awakening may be of a different sort (political).
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There's some variation in Awakenings, but the central aspect to them is always cultural and spiritual discovery and movements. But rebellious (and maybe counter-rebellious) political movements have always been part of Awakenings too.
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Had a good laugh at this.

https://luckyottershaven.com/2016/08/28/...-sun-sign/
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(07-28-2016, 04:05 PM)taramarie Wrote: Just have to say the ability to have imagination and creativity is not just confined to one specific generation. it changes constantly with new technology. It changes sound and shape BUT what is not creative is how it usually is influenced by older ideas. Nothing is original. It will 99% of the time have an older origin. (I took art history as part of my degree course). Boomers are no different.
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https://redux.slate.com/cover-stories/20...roken.html

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