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Careers ruined or at risk from accusations of sexual misconduct
Weinstein -- felony conviction!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Cases like those of Weinstein’s and Bill Cosby were horrific to be sure and both deserve to be put away for sure. However, I tend to believe that the unfortunate byproduct of not only the #MeToo movement and others like it is that there’s the potential for experiencing difficulties in some of our personal relationships as well. A few bad folks tend to ruin things for all the rest of us. The sexual revolution era was a wild and fun time in many ways, but we have seen the period’s dark side come home to roost a full half century later. Much harm can stem from miscommunications and misunderstandings which can lead to careers being torpedoed for much less severe action than what those two men did. And while the initial crackdown on workplace harassment began following the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas episode nearly three decades ago and was force fed to the entire business community, it has been carried to such an extreme that even a sincere compliment can potentially get you in trouble. Seems we have become too sensitive and too insensitive at the same time. In fact there may be a correlation between this and the fact of more people preferring to be alone these days, hence the rise I such services as home delivery of food. We could benefit from putting in the energy to maintain what relationships we do have, but often lack the will to do so.
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(03-03-2020, 07:11 PM)beechnut79 Wrote: Cases like those of Weinstein’s and Bill Cosby were horrific to be sure and both deserve to be put away for sure. However, I tend to believe that the unfortunate byproduct of not only the #MeToo movement and others like it is that there’s the potential for experiencing difficulties in some of our personal relationships as well. A few bad folks tend to ruin things for all the rest of us. The sexual revolution era was a wild and fun time in many ways, but we have seen the period’s dark side come home to roost a full half century later. Much harm can stem from miscommunications and misunderstandings which can lead to careers being torpedoed for much less severe action than what those two men did. And while the initial crackdown on workplace harassment began following the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas episode nearly three decades ago and was force fed to the entire business community, it has been carried to such an extreme that even a sincere compliment can potentially get you in trouble. Seems we have become too sensitive and too insensitive at the same time. In fact there may be a correlation between this and the fact of more people preferring to be alone these days, hence the rise I such services as home delivery of food. We could benefit from putting in the energy to maintain what relationships we do have, but often lack the will to do so.

There will always be unforeseen consequences. As bad as sexual abuse of women is I can think of something even worse: abuse of children by a lover or stepfather. A few years ago there was a case on a Reservation in Michigan in which a man killed the potential stepchildren. There is a reasonably good stop against that: a woman can get a criminal record check upon a man. If he isn't willing to submit to that, then something is wrong with him. It is better to have no man than to end up with someone who will hurt his stepchildren.  A criminal records check can also detect a history of other violence or irresponsible behavior, including drug offenses, DUI, theft, and assaults. A credit check also can help in detecting overspenders and people who default on bills. 

...America is becoming more repressive about sexuality. Even same-sex marriage comes with an implicit crackdown on certain forms of sexual misconduct: child abuse. To get marital rights, mainstream gays and lesbians threw the child-molesting perverts under the bus. Count on gays and lesbians protecting children just as straights do. Date-rape drugs are now banned. Violence relating to sex isn't sexy, but it has been effective. It is now easier to prosecute, and juries are becoming less tolerant of sexual violence. The trucking industry (truckers are especially prone to using the services of prostitutes) has been issuing warnings about involvement with females who may have been trafficked. Trucking companies may be scared that a trucker will be busted for sex with someone underage and put the rig and the load at risk of seizure in such an event. 
 
Cosby, Weinstein, and Epstein got away with what they did longer than others did -- into at least their late sixties when caught. Others who emulate their scummy behavior will be caught earlier. 

I don't know how far we will go to respond to the climate of sexual repression.... arranged marriages? Or will people be expected to find safe situations (churches, social clubs, college?) in which people go through the old-fashioned "date and rate". Some tendencies repeat. Human needs and desires don't change; expressions and practices do.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(03-03-2020, 09:20 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(03-03-2020, 07:11 PM)beechnut79 Wrote: Cases like those of Weinstein’s and Bill Cosby were horrific to be sure and both deserve to be put away for sure. However, I tend to believe that the unfortunate byproduct of not only the #MeToo movement and others like it is that there’s the potential for experiencing difficulties in some of our personal relationships as well. A few bad folks tend to ruin things for all the rest of us. The sexual revolution era was a wild and fun time in many ways, but we have seen the period’s dark side come home to roost a full half century later. Much harm can stem from miscommunications and misunderstandings which can lead to careers being torpedoed for much less severe action than what those two men did. And while the initial crackdown on workplace harassment began following the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas episode nearly three decades ago and was force fed to the entire business community, it has been carried to such an extreme that even a sincere compliment can potentially get you in trouble. Seems we have become too sensitive and too insensitive at the same time. In fact there may be a correlation between this and the fact of more people preferring to be alone these days, hence the rise I such services as home delivery of food. We could benefit from putting in the energy to maintain what relationships we do have, but often lack the will to do so.

There will always be unforeseen consequences. As bad as sexual abuse of women is I can think of something even worse: abuse of children by a lover or stepfather. A few years ago there was a case on a Reservation in Michigan in which a man killed the potential stepchildren. There is a reasonably good stop against that: a woman can get a criminal record check upon a man. If he isn't willing to submit to that, then something is wrong with him. It is better to have no man than to end up with someone who will hurt his stepchildren.  A criminal records check can also detect a history of other violence or irresponsible behavior, including drug offenses, DUI, theft, and assaults. A credit check also can help in detecting overspenders and people who default on bills. 

...America is becoming more repressive about sexuality. Even same-sex marriage comes with an implicit crackdown on certain forms of sexual misconduct: child abuse. To get marital rights, mainstream gays and lesbians threw the child-molesting perverts under the bus. Count on gays and lesbians protecting children just as straights do. Date-rape drugs are now banned. Violence relating to sex isn't sexy, but it has been effective. It is now easier to prosecute, and juries are becoming less tolerant of sexual violence. The trucking industry (truckers are especially prone to using the services of prostitutes) has been issuing warnings about involvement with females who may have been trafficked. Trucking companies may be scared that a trucker will be busted for sex with someone underage and put the rig and the load at risk of seizure in such an event. 
 
Cosby, Weinstein, and Epstein got away with what they did longer than others did -- into at least their late sixties when caught. Others who emulate their scummy behavior will be caught earlier. 

I don't know how far we will go to respond to the climate of sexual repression.... arranged marriages? Or will people be expected to find safe situations (churches, social clubs, college?) in which people go through the old-fashioned "date and rate". Some tendencies repeat. Human needs and desires don't change; expressions and practices do.

Weinstein has now joined the club with Bill Cosby on being sent to prison. His sentence is even longer than Cosby's was. But what might the future hold for some of the fallen from grace who misdeeds weren't serious enough to warrant prison time, such as Matt Lauer, Tavis Smiley and more recently Chris Matthews? None of these are really old enough to fully retire. Might they be forced into creating their own businesses?
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I am reminded of one once-prominent journalist who got caught in a scandal involving (I forget -- plagiarism or fabrication?). A few years later he was discovered at a department store selling underwear. Such was all that he was deemed qualified to do. Minimum wage.

As for the others -- F--- 'em. Many of us would have been delighted to hold their jobs. I would not put mine at risk through sexual harassment any more than I would through embezzlement. In view of the damage that sexual harassment can do to a company, sexual harassment is every bit as harmful as embezzlement because the loss comes through the legal system in a loss far greater than sticky fingers can do.

The generational cycle suggests that a return to patterns of the 1T -- when employers assumed and expected marital fidelity as evidence of trustworthiness with corporate assets and image -- could be returning soon. The star system that concentrates so much reward in so few people makes betrayals of trust even more devastating to corporate assets and image.

OK, so we are more mature about LGBT sex. That can stick.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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No wonder they want to change that name so quickly! It looks as if there was some grossly sexually-incorrect behavior that is a major disgrace. The politically-incorrect Washington Redskins are better described as "red-handed".


The Washington football team continues to be in the news and while the club is getting a new name and logo, the major looming story is not about that.
The buzz about an incriminating article continues to grow with various media members tweeting out about a potential bombshell that was set to drop. Details were slow to emerge but we know that lawyers were getting involved, as Pro Football Action relayed. Now, we know a bit more about the potential scandal.

The franchise has hired DC attorney Beth Wilkinson to review the organization’s protocols, league sources tell Adam Schefter of ESPN.com.


Schefter also confirmed the rumored article from The Washington Post will indeed highlight the current culture within the franchise.
The franchise recently fired their director of pro personnel Alex Santos and assistant pro personnel Richard Mann II. They have since been replaced. The team added former Redskins tight end Don Warren as the assistant director of pro personnel, which brought some excitement to fans. However, perhaps details surrounding the dismal of Santos and Mann may put a blanket on any kind of enthusiasm for the organization.

Potential Ownership Change in Washington?

While it’s too early to tell if the looming news will force majority owner Dan Synder to sell the team, his minority stakeholders are looking for a way out.
Dwight Schar, Fred Smith and Robert Rothman are the three investors who own 40% of the team and they are not pleased with something going on in the organization, according to Pro Football Talk.
Synder, who resides in Potomac, Maryland, bought the Redskins back in 1999, spending $750 million to do so. According to Forbes, the franchise is now worth $3.4 billion.

Past History of Unprofessional Behavior
Back in 2018, there were reports of unacceptable protocols by the franchise when the Redskins took their cheerleaders to Costa Rica for a photo shoot.
There was a red flag immediately upon arrival. The team collected the cheerleaders’ passports, which in many cases was the girls’ only identifications. According to Juliet Macur of The New York Times, many of the girls said they were required to be topless for shoots even though the calendar would not show nudity.

The team reportedly allowed a group of sponsors and suite holders (all men) to access the photoshoot and get up close to the cheerleaders. At the conclusion of one of the 14-hour days, the girls were told that there was more work to be done, as Macur details.
Quote:They had a special assignment for the night. Some of the male sponsors had picked them to be personal escorts at a nightclub.
“So get back to your room and get ready,” the director told them. Several of them began to cry.
“They weren’t putting a gun to our heads, but it was mandatory for us to go,” one of the cheerleaders said. “We weren’t asked, we were told. Other girls were devastated because we knew exactly what she was doing.”
Sex was not involved in the arrangements, though Macur writes that many of the cheerleaders were uncomfortable with everything that went on.

https://heavy.com/sports/2020/07/washington-culture/
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Advice that has not become stale after 53 or more years:



The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(07-16-2020, 06:15 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Advice that has not become stale after 53 or more years:




The specific advice might still be true, but this film is so cancelled now.
Steve Barrera

[A]lthough one would like to change today's world back to the spirit of one hundred years or more ago, it cannot be done. Thus it is important to make the best out of every generation. - Hagakure

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(07-17-2020, 08:29 AM)sbarrera Wrote:
(07-16-2020, 06:15 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Advice that has not become stale after 53 or more years:




The specific advice might still be true, but this film is so cancelled now.

What's a secretary in 2020 anyway?
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(07-17-2020, 08:29 AM)sbarrera Wrote:
(07-16-2020, 06:15 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Advice that has not become stale after 53 or more years:




The specific advice might still be true, but this film is so cancelled now.

How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying is  a cute musical with some catchy tunes... but it is now unwatchable (movie or stage musical) because it is now completely out of touch with economic reality. The American workplace has typically become a nightmare due to the inhumanity of the command-and-control system.  The capitalist class has deputized an executive elite to make near-serfs out of employees because such is optimal for maximal profits. But this pattern is taking hold in the non-profit sector as well, as in academia where, as in many 'socialist' states the administrators have themselves become an exploitative and abusive elite much like the nomenklatura of the Soviet Union and its satellite states.    


Charges of sexual harassment are of course to be avoided under all circumstances because they can result in costly lawsuits for an employer even if the employer wins. The cost of even a winning lawsuit is about the same as a significant embezzlement, which is just slightly more effective as a career-terminating event, and embezzlement is relatively easy to catch.

Today the glass ceilings are extremely low and rigid in practically all large corporations. Getting ahead in business without trying? Today it is more like "Barely surviving despite your effort and ability".  Corporate America is now practically designed for the suffering of low-level workers, owned by shareholders who demand every penny possible as quickly as possible and run by administrators just slightly more ethical than the fictional Simon Legree and as cliquish and clannish as the old Soviet nomenklatura. The only freedom that a worker has in America is the freedom to quit for a lateral move elsewhere, which is quite welcome because that means two years before one gets any vacation time or even a pittance vested in a pension. Never has the American worker needed unions for protection but unions have never been weaker in a century.

Workers in American business are all too often livestock at best and vermin at worst. It may take another Great Depression to break the power of the oppressive elites of ownership and management.  

In the meantime -- hey, smart kid with a good work ethic: go into the public sector, do something creative, or start a small business. For now nobody has a real chance in Corporate America except if one is born into the elite. We have the worst of aristocracy and Soviet-style bureaucracy at work today.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(07-17-2020, 09:32 AM)David Horn Wrote: What's a secretary in 2020 anyway?

For a "C-level" executive, a personal assistant who probably does handle clerical work and appointments in the tradition of what a secretary is.

For everybody else, there is typically an executive assistant (that is the title) who serves an entire floor or building. They are basically in charge of supplies, including what is in the break room, and probably also keeping track of seating.

I will say that they are always a woman, and you would be insane to hit up on her, the same as with any female coworker.
Steve Barrera

[A]lthough one would like to change today's world back to the spirit of one hundred years or more ago, it cannot be done. Thus it is important to make the best out of every generation. - Hagakure

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(07-17-2020, 12:49 PM)sbarrera Wrote:
(07-17-2020, 09:32 AM)David Horn Wrote: What's a secretary in 2020 anyway?

For a "C-level" executive, a personal assistant who probably does handle clerical work and appointments in the tradition of what a secretary is.

For everybody else, there is typically an executive assistant (that is the title) who serves an entire floor or building. They are basically in charge of supplies, including what is in the break room, and probably also keeping track of seating.

I will say that they are always a woman, and you would be insane to hit up on her, the same as with any female coworker.

Frankly, I was being facetious.  The idea of a secretary (the keeper of secrets) is a bizarre idea in this day and age.  There are no secrets, only NDAs.

The last admin assistant (an even worse title in my opinion) in my department had an MBA.  She was the pivotal person in that department ... period.  Without her, the managers would have flailed around and gotten nothing done. She should have had one of their titles and pay, but "assistants" don't get that treatment.
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(07-18-2020, 08:58 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(07-17-2020, 12:49 PM)sbarrera Wrote:
(07-17-2020, 09:32 AM)David Horn Wrote: What's a secretary in 2020 anyway?

For a "C-level" executive, a personal assistant who probably does handle clerical work and appointments in the tradition of what a secretary is.

For everybody else, there is typically an executive assistant (that is the title) who serves an entire floor or building. They are basically in charge of supplies, including what is in the break room, and probably also keeping track of seating.

I will say that they are always a woman, and you would be insane to hit up on her, the same as with any female coworker.

Frankly, I was being facetious.  The idea of a secretary (the keeper of secrets) is a bizarre idea in this day and age.  There are no secrets, only NDAs.

The last admin assistant (an even worse title in my opinion) in my department had an MBA.  She was the pivotal person in that department ... period.  Without her, the managers would have flailed around and gotten nothing done. She should have had one of their titles and pay, but "assistants" don't get that treatment.

It is interesting that the administrative assistant is always a woman.
Steve Barrera

[A]lthough one would like to change today's world back to the spirit of one hundred years or more ago, it cannot be done. Thus it is important to make the best out of every generation. - Hagakure

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