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Choosing your generation?
#61
I admittedly wasn't specifically looking for the first or last borns in every case, but a universal year in which someone born in that year would have experienced those events at a certain stage of life, after which the cusps began. As an example, a person that was born in 1953 could also vote at 18 but would still have been in college when Saigon fell and the Vietnam War was lost. For that matter, a 1976 born was technically the last to start elementary school before MTV launched but would not have spent most of high school before the World Wide Web was public.

Noted on the Challenger and O.J. trial though, the months of those events didn't match.
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(11-24-2019, 02:02 AM)ResidentArtist Wrote: I admittedly wasn't specifically looking for the first or last borns in every case, but a universal year in which someone born in that year would have experienced those events at a certain stage of life, after which the cusps began. As an example, a person that was born in 1953 could also vote at 18 but would still have been in college when Saigon fell and the Vietnam War was lost. For that matter, a 1976 born was technically the last to start elementary school before MTV launched but would not have spent most of high school before the World Wide Web was public.

Noted on the Challenger and O.J. trial though, the months of those events didn't match.

"Lasts" and "firsts" are kind of necessary to determine where a generation starts/ends.

1997 and 2000, for example, are both actually pretty good starting years for the Artist generation because they have more "firsts" than "lasts":

1997 firsts:
*First to not be in elementary school when 9/11 happened.
*First to start elementary school after the release of the iPod.
*First to start elementary school after DVD sales top over VHS sales in ~2002.
*First to spend most of their elementary school years post-Web 2.0, post-peak of Blockbuster (Blockbuster peaked in November 2004), post-YouTube, and post-closing of Nickelodeon Studios (which marked an end to the "Silver Age" of Nickelodeon)
*First to start middle school after the release of the iPhone.
*First to start middle school after liquid-crystal display TVs overtook cathode-ray tube TVs.
*First to start middle school after the Recession
*First to start high school after the launch of Instagram.
*First to start high school after the killing of Osama bin Laden.
*First to start high school after smartphone sales exceeded PC sales.
*First to spend most of their high school years after smartphone sales overtook flip phone sales.
*First to graduate high school after the Ferguson riots, which escalated racial tensions in the modern era, and after the rise of ISIS.
*First to spend most of their college years after the Trump v. Hillary election.

1997 lasts:
*Last to start elementary school before the Iraq War.
*Last to spend most of their elementary school years before Hurricane Katrina.
*Last to start middle school before the McCain v. Obama election.
*Last to start high school before the Trayvon Martin incident.
*Last to spend most of their high school years before the legalization of recreational marijuana, the annexation of Crimea, and the Isla Vista shooting (the event that would usher in the "incel" movement).
*Last to graduate high school before the legalization of gay marriage.
*Last to graduate college before the Climate strikes and the "OK Boomer" thing.

2000 firsts:
*First to be born in a year that begins with a 2 (obviously)
*First to start elementary school post-Web 2.0, post-peak of Blockbuster, post-YouTube, and post-closing of Nickelodeon Studios.
*First to spend most of their elementary school years after the release of the iPhone.
*First to spend most of their elementary school years after the start of the Recession.
*First to spend most of their elementary school years after liquid-crystal display TVs overtook cathode-ray tube TVs.
*First to start middle school after the launch of Instagram.
*First to start middle school after the killing of Osama bin Laden.
*First to start middle school after smartphone sales overtook PC sales.
*First to start high school after the legalization of recreational marijuana, the annexation of Crimea, and the Isla Vista shooting.
*First to spend most of their high school years after the legalization of gay marriage.
*First to graduate high school after the release of Fortnite, the tide pod scare, and the Parkland shooting, all of which giving the Artist generation a firm identity in pop culture and politics.
*First to graduate high school after worldwide Internet usage hit 50%.
*First to spend most of their college years after the Climate strikes and the whole "OK Boomer" thing

2000 lasts:
*Last to start elementary school before Hurricane Katrina.
*Last to spend most of their elementary school years before the McCain v. Obama election.
*Last to start middle school before the Trayvon Martin incident.
*Last to start high school before the Ferguson riots and the rise of ISIS.
*Last to spend most of their high school years prior to the Trump v. Hillary election.

1994 too is actually a decent starting point for Homelanders/Artists despite being kind of early:

1994 firsts:
*First to start elementary school after the Columbine shooting.
*First to spend most of their elementary school years post-9/11.
*First to spend most of their elementary school years after the release of the iPod.
*First to spend most of their elementary school years after DVD sales top over VHS sales in ~2002.
*First to start middle school post-Web 2.0, post-peak of Blockbuster, post-YouTube, and post-closing of Nickelodeon Studios.
*First to start high school after the release of the iPhone.
*First to start high school after liquid-crystal display TVs overtook cathode-ray tube TVs.
*First to start high school after the start of the Recession.
*First to spend most of their high school years after the release of the iPad.
*First to graduate high school after the Trayvon Martin incident.
*First to spend most of their college years after the legalization of recreational marijuana, the annexation of Crimea, and the Isla Vista shooting.
*First to graduate college after the legalization of gay marriage.

1994 lasts:
*Last to start elementary school before Y2K.
*Last to spend most of their elementary school years before the Iraq War.
*Last to start middle school before Hurricane Katrina.
*Last to start high school before the McCain v. Obama election.
*Last to spend most of their high school years before the killing of Osama bin Laden.
*Last to graduate high school before smartphone sales overtook flip phone sales.
*Last to graduate college before the Trump v. Hillary election.
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(11-24-2019, 01:20 AM)Ghost Wrote: 1922 isn't purely GI because:

Seeing as most of them fought in WW2, which wasn't the case for the 1901 cohort, I'd rather say that they're quintessential GI. Isn't one big shaping experience more important than many little ones from childhood (which they don't remember that much)? Especially since they grew up in hard times, so it's no wonder they don't have much of childhood nostalgia.
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