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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
(04-18-2018, 05:58 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(04-18-2018, 04:23 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(04-18-2018, 03:36 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(04-18-2018, 12:14 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: But, we are 4T now. And Hogg didn't associate with or act like a blue yet. Maybe he will, I don't know. I think he should, myself. But that's up to him, not you. Or me. But anyone on any side is free to advocate gun control. Generally, victims of guns come out for gun control, regardless of which party they are in. Press Secretary Brady did, and so did Ronald Reagan.

Hogg may be an easy target, as Justin Bieber was. It will be harder for the trolls to personally insult Matt Post; he's as smooth as silk, and no skinny geek! He's clearly going places.
We aren't 4t, you'd need several large school shootings occurring everyday or weekly for months all over the United States. Everything is viewed as a crisis by an older blue 4t poster. Matt is clueless and more of a typical activist and lacks real life experience with mass shootings. Do you know that Brady and Reagan were shot with a .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol that was similar to the pistol that I learned how to shoot with as a kid? Maybe I'm off a bit, maybe cozy blue America isn't a safe as blues make it out to be and seem to want everyone else to believe. Maybe, cozy blue America is a good place to do mass shooting because cozy blue America has their minds on trivial shit that's easily sued vs serious shit that's hard to defend and explain all the fuck ups when they happen. I don't know, I'm not all that familiar with cozy blue Americans.

No, you're not lol

The facts are that Blue America has more gun control than Red America, and the results are that there is less gun violence in those states, and even less murder and crime overall. Blue Americans know what's up, as David Hogg and his friends say. They are hip to the truth and the facts. Smooth Matt is so well-informed that he's able to express it with aplomb and assurance, and he will be a leader in this current 4T and in coming decades that mobilizes our country both red and blue in a moral and progressive rebirth. 

Young people, purple and blue alike, are the ones who know guns are a crisis. Guns are a 4T issue along with other issues, because we've already had thousands of children and young adults killed in school shootings, and thousands more in offices, theaters, concerts, night clubs, shopping centers, churches, post offices, military forts, restaurants, buses, baseball parks, streets, plus assassinations, police murders and murders by police..... Enough is enough!
Blue America doesn't know shit about anything that isn't some how or another related to them. I've been telling blues that for years and blues seemed to sort start to figure that out after the election of Trump and their loss of the Senate. But, the side show/circus ( Russian collusion thing, anti-Trump bullshit, porn star shit and whatever crap a bunch of over paid idiots can drum up) with screwing around with them and egging them on and making them look like fools the whole time kind of screwed up their education and attempt to understand where other people where at as far as what relates to them so to speak. Did the black dude come back with any information for his white liberal masters? I have to tip my hat to the Democrats, the Democrats have let go of the whips and chains and the white only and the black only signs and the lynching ropes and moved to using welfare checks and government housing and government subsidies to control and keep them loyal to them instead. Still bad, but its progress as you say. Wink What are the wealthy white liberals going to do when their illegal/legal immigrants (cheap foreign laborer who is willing to picks fruit by hand for the old minimum wage(  like the old minimum wage that around when I was a 20 something) when their workforce is eliminated by higher standards?

We've had more gun deaths by suicide than actual gun violence. We've had more deaths by overdoses heroin/illegal drugs than actual gun violence. But, gun violence the one you chose. Well, that's stupid. That's as stupid as telling me that OUR cops are killing the blues blacks by thousands. I dunno, maybe that's a prelude to what's to come during the 4t. If that's so, then we are on the same page as far as the crisis goes.

Certainly.

The people who had the "whips and chains and the white only and the black only signs and the lynching ropes" were Democrats in the old days before JFK and LBJ, and are Republicans now. Party labels shifted, that's all.

Gun deaths by suicide does not make them any less tragic gun deaths. The guns make suicide easier, that's the point. Guns are dangerous killing machines that cost extra lives. People are concerned about drug overdoses too. Part of that is due to the mailaise that the Republicans have created by allowing our industrial base to decline through their free trade policies and failure to provide services for people to deal with unemployment, and spending everything on cops instead. That's the same trickle-down, anti-welfare, self-reliance ideology of the reds, which you just voiced again. 

And of course police are killing unarmed young blacks by the hundreds, or the thousands, although I don't have an exact figure; but this kind of event goes back to the sixties, and have been frequent causes of riots ever since then. It happens enough for blacks to say enough is enough, just like the students. And there are two reasons why these police killings of blacks are happening more often now: racism, and guns. Most shootings happen because the police are afraid that the shooting victim had or might have a gun, because there are too many guns out there. And that's why police departments favor gun control.
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David goes up against Goliath, and it appears David has won!



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(04-21-2018, 08:03 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: David goes up against Goliath, and it appears David has won!



Has David met Goliath yet? I see David talking to blues, I see David receiving ego massages from blues, I see David taking pot shots from safe distance, I see David blowing off the criticism being applied by old school adults associated and dishing it back to a chick critism his grade point average and college refusals to date. I think he looked cool and sharp the way he brought her down from her high horse but I bet he he had help doing it because I wouldn't be surprised if there's a blue team of information wizes attached to him with the job of countering criticism to protect his image. I'd like to see David actually meet Goliath. But we know that isn't going to happen because blues prefer to coast, play it safe and avoid serious challengers and any possible damage to ones credibility or ones image.
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There has been, on average, 1 school shooting every week this year

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nationa...l-walkout/
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(04-21-2018, 10:45 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(04-21-2018, 08:03 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: David goes up against Goliath, and it appears David has won!



Has David met Goliath yet? I see David talking to blues, I see David receiving ego massages from blues, I see David taking pot shots from safe distance, I see David blowing off the criticism being applied by old school adults associated and dishing it back to a chick critcizing his grade point average and college refusals to date. I think he looked cool and sharp the way he brought her down from her high horse but I bet he had help doing it because I wouldn't be surprised if there's a blue team of information wizes attached to him with the job of countering criticism to protect his image. I'd like to see David actually meet Goliath. But we know that isn't going to happen because blues prefer to coast, play it safe and avoid serious challengers and any possible damage to ones credibility or ones image.

Oh, I don't think so. He is a skilled spokesman and press agent now. He's learning a lot as he goes along. I don't know if you saw the video, but the commentator identified the Goliath he took down. Pretty darn impressive take-down, far beyond the way he looked. He struck Goliath where it hurts. David's cool under pressure is impressive too. Better than you or I could ever do. It's easy to knock him just by saying you think there are others coaching him and protecting him, but you don't know that, and if it were true you would know it. He gets compliments from interviewers, and I suppose you can say they are blue, but that's only to be expected.
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(04-21-2018, 11:30 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(04-21-2018, 10:45 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(04-21-2018, 08:03 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: David goes up against Goliath, and it appears David has won!



Has David met Goliath yet? I see David talking to blues, I see David receiving ego massages from blues, I see David taking pot shots from safe distance, I see David blowing off the criticism being applied by old school adults associated and dishing it back to a chick critcizing his grade point average and college refusals to date. I think he looked cool and sharp the way he brought her down from her high horse but I bet he had help doing it because I wouldn't be surprised if there's a blue team of information wizes attached to him with the job of countering criticism to protect his image. I'd like to see David actually meet Goliath. But we know that isn't going to happen because blues prefer to coast, play it safe and avoid serious challengers and any possible damage to ones credibility or ones image.

Oh, I don't think so. He is a skilled spokesman and press agent now. He's learning a lot as he goes along. I don't know if you saw the video, but the commentator identified the Goliath he took down. Pretty darn impressive take-down, far beyond the way he looked. He struck Goliath where it hurts. David's cool under pressure is impressive too. Better than you or I could ever do. It's easy to knock him just by saying you think there are others coaching him and protecting him, but you don't know that, and if it were true you would know it. He gets compliments from interviewers, and I suppose you can say they are blue, but that's only to be expected.
I'm not a big fan of Laura Ingram. She's OK but she's nothing special. He didn't take her down. She's still on Fox News. I don't care about his grade point average or the colleges he wants to attend or rejected from attending. Hmm...Where was he during the shooting and while the shooting was going on? Was he in the middle of it or a safe distance away from it? Where was he afterwards? Was he doing what journalists/reporters normally do (taking notes, gathering info and preparing comments and statements) or doing what the people were doing at the scene where the shooting took place?
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(04-22-2018, 12:11 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(04-21-2018, 11:30 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(04-21-2018, 10:45 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(04-21-2018, 08:03 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: David goes up against Goliath, and it appears David has won!



Has David met Goliath yet? I see David talking to blues, I see David receiving ego massages from blues, I see David taking pot shots from safe distance, I see David blowing off the criticism being applied by old school adults associated and dishing it back to a chick critcizing his grade point average and college refusals to date. I think he looked cool and sharp the way he brought her down from her high horse but I bet he had help doing it because I wouldn't be surprised if there's a blue team of information wizes attached to him with the job of countering criticism to protect his image. I'd like to see David actually meet Goliath. But we know that isn't going to happen because blues prefer to coast, play it safe and avoid serious challengers and any possible damage to ones credibility or ones image.

Oh, I don't think so. He is a skilled spokesman and press agent now. He's learning a lot as he goes along. I don't know if you saw the video, but the commentator identified the Goliath he took down. Pretty darn impressive take-down, far beyond the way he looked. He struck Goliath where it hurts. David's cool under pressure is impressive too. Better than you or I could ever do. It's easy to knock him just by saying you think there are others coaching him and protecting him, but you don't know that, and if it were true you would know it. He gets compliments from interviewers, and I suppose you can say they are blue, but that's only to be expected.
I'm not a big fan of Laura Ingram. She's OK but she's nothing special. He didn't take her down. She's still on Fox News. I don't care about his grade point average or the colleges he wants to attend or rejected from attending. Hmm...Where was he during the shooting and while the shooting was going on? Was he in the middle of it or a safe distance away from it? Where was he afterwards? Was he doing what journalists/reporters normally do (taking notes, gathering info and preparing comments and statements) or doing what the people were doing at the scene where the shooting took place?

David stated in this video and others that he was at school hovering under a desk during the shooting, and was recording hushed conversations with fellow students trapped nearby. I don't know how close the shooter got to him; enough so everyone was forced to hide.

I sometimes laugh hysterically at these goofy and ridiculous conspiracy theories, and sometimes I am disgusted and write angry responses.
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I wonder who is crazier, the guy running around nude with an assault rifle, or the Waffle House customer that takes him on without a weapon?  You expect the shooter to be crazy?
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For those who believe in 'gun rights' even to the extent of mass ownership of massacre weapons, do you consider your life worth less than the profits from the sale of those weapons and their ammunition?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Nineteen years after the massacre at Columbine shocked the entire nation, five years and four months after Sandy Hook made the American president cry on television, and two months after Parkland shocked us again, students at over 2,500 schools across the U.S. united for a second National School Walkout, calling, once again, for the grownups to do something to stop gun violence in this country.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/...#read-more
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(04-22-2018, 03:45 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I wonder who is crazier, the guy running around nude with an assault rifle, or the Waffle House customer that takes him on without a weapon?  You expect the shooter to be crazy?

He is a hero, no doubt about that. One true millennial "hero"

Police praised a customer who prevented further bloodshed in the shooting. They said James Shaw Jr., 29, rushed Reinking, wrestled him to the ground and tossed the weapon. Shaw's hands were severely burned from grabbing the AR-15 but he still managed to push Reinking out of the establishment.
"He is the hero here, and no doubt he saved many lives by wrestling the gun away and then tossing it over the counter, and prompting the man to leave," Aaron said.
Shaw said he wasn't going to make it easy for Reinking to kill him and said he knew he only had one chance. 
"I saw an opportunity -- my window -- so I took it. I ran through the door as fast as I could and just kind of jammed him up with the gun when it pointed down. We started wrestling and fighting for it. I just took it and tossed it over the counter. I pushed him out of the restaurant and he walked off," Shaw told WTVF-TV.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/waffle-hous...018-04-22/

"He was only wearing a jacket and nothing else on," Cordero, a roadside-assistance worker, said of the gunman.

Police said two of the dead were shot outside the restaurant and one inside. A fourth person who was shot inside the restaurant later died at the hospital.

Two other people shot in the incident were in critical but stable condition at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville. Other victims were struck by shattered glass.

The person who wrestled the rifle away from the shooter is a "hero," police said.

Cordero used the same word.

"There's a hero," Cordero said. "I don't know what his name is, but there's a gentleman who was in there, who when this guy stopped to reload or stopped to do something with his gun, he took that opportunity and wrestled the guy till the gun went flying and then the dude took off running."

"I talked to him afterward and told him, 'You are a hero, man,' because had that guy reloaded, there were plenty more people in that restaurant," he said.

But the courageous patron, identified as James Shaw Jr., 29, refused to call himself a hero.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/3-dead-several...ories.html



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(04-18-2018, 04:36 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(04-18-2018, 04:23 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Classic-Xer
(04-18-2018, 12:14 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: But, we are 4T now. And Hogg didn't associate with or act like a blue yet. Maybe he will, I don't know. I think he should, myself. But that's up to him, not you. Or me. But anyone on any side is free to advocate gun control. Generally, victims of guns come out for gun control, regardless of which party they are in. Press Secretary Brady did, and so did Ronald Reagan.

Hogg may be an easy target, as Justin Bieber was. It will be harder for the trolls to personally insult Matt Post; he's as smooth as silk, and no skinny geek! He's clearly going places.
We aren't 4t, you'd need several large school shootings occurring everyday or weekly for months all over the United States. Everything is viewed as a crisis by an older blue 4t poster. Matt is clueless and more of a typical activist and lacks real life experience with mass shootings. Do you know that Brady and Reagan were shot with a .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol that was similar to the pistol that I learned how to shoot with as a kid? Maybe I'm off a bit, maybe cozy blue America isn't a safe as blues make it out to be and seem to want everyone else to believe. Maybe, cozy blue America is a good place to do mass shooting because cozy blue America has their minds on trivial shit that's easily sued vs serious shit that's hard to defend and explain all the fuck ups when they happen. I don't know, I'm not all that familiar with cozy blue Americans.

No, you're not lol

The facts are that Blue America has more gun control than Red America, and the results are that there is less gun violence in those states, and even less murder and crime overall. Blue Americans know what's up, as David Hogg and his friends say. They are hip to the truth and the facts. Smooth Matt is so well-informed that he's able to express it with aplomb and assurance, and he will be a leader in this current 4T and in coming decades that mobilizes our country both red and blue in a moral and progressive rebirth. 

Young people, purple and blue alike, are the ones who know guns are a crisis. Guns are a 4T issue along with other issues, because we've already had thousands of children and young adults killed in school shootings, and thousands more in offices, theaters, concerts, night clubs, shopping centers, churches, post offices, military forts, restaurants, buses, baseball parks, streets, plus assassinations, police murders and murders by police..... Enough is enough!


Meh.... Too much focusing on trivia.  SJW's are just so damn annoying.   Here's a poem for all SJW's.  SJW's prepare to get drafted and die in some hellhole. History awaits.


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It's the age of Ragnarok
The warships are at the dock.
Oh the establishment's dying.
The lies are all a flying.
The markets are a bubble.
When they crash there's gonna be trouble.
Ohh,  aahhh, haaa ohhh yeah.
Ohh,  aahha, haaa,ohhh yeah.
Sanity has gone.
Hear the squawks of the Neocon.
America's buried in debt.
It's gonna hurt, you bet.
Climate change is on the roll.
We're still fracking and burning coal.
Fenir's been unchained.
He resists being restrained.
Over the horizon, a storm is brewing.
All over the world, people are dueling.





Heh, heh, heh.  SJW's welcome to y'alls nightmare.  Sorry Eric, but that Hogg kid is as annoying as mosquitoes. So what happens if he's drafted or somesuch?

I doubt very much that those Parkland students would agree with you that their lives are "trivial."

I look at the pictures of the students of Columbine and Parkland, and I wonder why they had to die, or what would have become of them.

Justin Bieber was annoying to you too. He got lots and lots of dislikes on his great videos. But the kids loved him, and still do. And rightly so. I like and admire David Hogg. He's my new Justin. He gets lots of dislikes too, and ridiculous insults too, and annoys lots of jaded Xers and Xennials too, and lots of trolls who are fooled by all the dorky conspiracy theories, but he and his friends are going to run over those in the way of the real changes that we need. And I like and admire them all. Especially also Matt Post, Ryan Deitsch, Emma Gonzalez and Cameron Kasky. The creepy NRA-financed politicians had better get their resumes ready! Your right to own an assault rifle, does not outweigh my right to live! Rev up the engines! Welcome to the revolution. Welcome to the fourth turning. It's our job now.

btw he's too skinny for the army.... he's not a stud like Justin.....
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Don't worry; we've got this...

"We hereby promise to fix the broken system we've been forced into, and create a better world for the generations to come"





Cameron Kasky is the original founder of the movement on Feb 14, 2018.

"We the people can fix this!"

https://youtu.be/MU6xKZ8lbtY
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"This was all because of the courage and effort of a handful of 15 and 16 year olds who took the responsibility that so often adults have failed to take," former President Barack Obama said about the student organizers of March for Our Lives



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(04-22-2018, 02:01 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: David stated in this video and others that he was at school hovering under a desk during the shooting, and was recording hushed conversations with fellow students trapped nearby. I don't know how close the shooter got to him; enough so everyone was forced to hide.

I sometimes laugh hysterically at these goofy and ridiculous conspiracy theories, and sometimes I am disgusted and write angry responses.
He was hovering under a desk gathering information from other students at the time of the shooting. What good did that do anyone but him and his life as far as saving lives of his fellow students and teachers during the shooting and after the shooting was over? Was he forced to hide or was he taught to hide by blue teachers and blue policy makers? We weren't taught to hide and take notes during a crisis. We were taught to attack, fight for and defend our lives and the lives of others as well.

Hmm...Maybe that's the difference/separating point between red and blue males and females and older more reddish and younger more blueish generations. What conspiracy theory, the theory that blues have something ( a negative/prejudiced view, a negative/prejudiced belief, an unsubstantiated fear of guns and gun owners) against the 2nd Amendment and everyone who supports it and working to protect it from blues who want to discard it and disarm America. There's a difference between the Russian collusion conspiracy theory that some blues are still clinging to and still believing in than the belief that reds have gained from interaction and observation of blues speaking with blues and official statements and positions that clearly have been taken by prominent blues in blue forums and blue Democrats over many years.
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(04-23-2018, 12:33 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: "This was all because of the courage and effort of a handful of 15 and 16 year olds who took the responsibility that so often adults have failed to take," former President Barack Obama said about the student organizers of March for Our Lives



Gee, the future of his blue party has fallen on the shoulders of a group of 15/16 year old's. My suggestion to him, get up and get off that cozy blue ass of his and get up off that cozy blue chair he's sitting in and do what you never did the whole time you sat in the cozy blue chair in a cozy blue office of yours in the White House having your ego stroked by cozy blue people and cozy blue supporters and cozy blue friends who loved you so much. Whatever, we're on the path of splitting with the blues eventually and whatever happens to blues won't matter anymore to me or matter to anyone else at that point.
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(04-23-2018, 12:09 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Don't worry; we've got this...

"We hereby promise to fix the broken system we've been forced into, and create a better world for the generations to come"





Cameron Kasky is the original founder of the movement on Feb 14, 2018.

"We the people can fix this!"

https://youtu.be/MU6xKZ8lbtY
I assume he's speaking to young blues at a younger blue pep rally of sort while other teenagers his age age sitting in classrooms and learning stuff that's more relevant to their lives and future careers or doing whatever teenagers prefer to be doing with their time instead.
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Well maybe, but remember, lots of people, young and old, suddenly go blue (even if claiming non-partisanship, probably correctly) on gun control, after suffering the results of its absence. It was, of course, one of the largest demonstrations ever, and the largest ever student demonstration. Calling it a blue pep rally is not exactly accurate Smile

I don't know if the mayor of Nashville is blue or not, but it's in a very red state with little gun control, and he's now for gun control after the shooting in the nearby suburb at the Waffle House.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/22/politics/...index.html

""For a moment, let's be honest about what happened," Mayor Briley said. "Last night, innocent Nashvilleans were terrorized by a man with an AR-15. Let's be honest. Some people see these weapons as having a purpose of terrorizing other people. It's happening too much. Enough is enough."
At at little after 3 a.m., 29-year-old Travis Reinking allegedly stormed the Waffle House restaurant in Antioch and used an "assault-type rifle" to carry out the carnage, authorities said. The shooting stopped only because of the heroics of a customer who heard the gunshots and hid near the restaurant's bathrooms, they said, before he rushed the gunman, wrestled the rifle from him and threw it away."
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(04-23-2018, 01:19 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(04-22-2018, 02:01 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: David stated in this video and others that he was at school hovering under a desk during the shooting, and was recording hushed conversations with fellow students trapped nearby. I don't know how close the shooter got to him; enough so everyone was forced to hide.

I sometimes laugh hysterically at these goofy and ridiculous conspiracy theories, and sometimes I am disgusted and write angry responses.
He was hovering under a desk gathering information from other students at the time of the shooting. What good did that do anyone but him and his life as far as saving lives of his fellow students and teachers during the shooting and after the shooting was over? Was he forced to hide or was he taught to hide by blue teachers and blue policy makers? We weren't taught to hide and take notes during a crisis. We were taught to attack, fight for and defend our lives and the lives of others as well.
Well, this is the 21st century, doncha know, and he wasn't taking notes, he was recording with his little device, you know, one of those smart things made here in blue Silicon Valley....

You were taught to attack, but in your day there weren't AR-15s and such around, so many of them, and there's not much chance of doing anything but hide. He was forced to hide, by circumstances.

So now they are fighting for their lives by pushing for gun control. A very noble cause, and as he said, "we WILL save lives!"

"Their right to an assault rifle, does not outweigh our right to live!"-- Matt Post, March 14, 2018

Quote:Hmm...Maybe that's the difference/separating point between red and blue males and females and older more reddish and younger more blueish generations. What conspiracy theory, the theory that blues have something ( a negative/prejudiced view, a negative/prejudiced belief, an unsubstantiated fear of guns and gun owners) against the 2nd Amendment and everyone who supports it and working to protect it from blues who want to discard it and disarm America. There's a difference between the Russian collusion conspiracy theory that some blues are still clinging to and still believing in than the belief that reds have gained from interaction and observation of blues speaking with blues and official statements and positions that clearly have been taken by prominent blues in blue forums and blue Democrats over many years.

Fear of guns is of course impossible to deny, or criticize. The only rational response to guns is to fear them. It's no theory; it's rather obvious. It's a rational fear, which should lead people to protect society from them, whether by background checks, rules for storage, limits on ammo magazines, limits and bans on war weapons, voluntary buy backs, or taking guns away eventually, if the people fully someday realize that this should happen.

The distraction from education, as Ryan Deitsch said, is not going to rallies or walkouts; it's "staring down the barrel of a gun"

The Russia collusion theory seems on the verge of getting bigger, and maybe proven, but the facts should be clearer some day soon, and that will be better than any theory, regardless of what the facts are. I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories.
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It is rational, when potentially confronted with a situation, to be trained, equipped and mentally ready for that situation.  The founding fathers lived in a world where those situations were common enough to protect that right.  It is rational to believe that a bad guy confronted with such a hostile and active population would feel free to avoid drawing the attention of an armed, trained and ready population.

It does not hurt to write laws that supposedly prohibit bad guys (felons, the insane, etc...) from owning or carrying arms.  That fine if you think prohibition will work, but irrational if you do not.  Police can spend their time and effort trying to make prohibition work.  Just make sure due process and rule of law aren't thrown away in a vain hope for backwards safety.
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