12-10-2016, 02:13 PM
(12-10-2016, 11:20 AM)Anthony 58 Wrote:(09-01-2016, 12:04 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(09-01-2016, 09:29 AM)Anthony Wrote: In addition to there going to be a Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in 2020, there will also be a perihelion/opposition of Mars and the Sun (causing Mars to flare up dramatically in brightness from out vantage point) in that year.
The last time those two events occurred in the same year?
1860 - when there of course was a "realigning election," which also directly caused a civil war.
The last four Martian perihelion/oppositions have also presaged some sort of violent conflict between Muslims and the adherents of some other religion(s): Vs. both Christians and Jews in 1956 - Billy Joel's "trouble in the Suez;" vs. Hindus in 1971 - the Indian-Pakistani war over Bangladesh (and the iconic humanitarian crisis it caused, resulting in the George Harrison-led We Are The World-like Concert For Bangladesh); vs. Jews in 1988 - the start of the Palestinian "Intifada" against Israel; and vs. Christians in 2003 - the U.S. invasion of Iraq.
So either a civil war or a religious war, or both, is possible in 2020, astrologically speaking.
That would be December-January 2020-2021.
Yes, I call it the Mars station. As Mars and the Earth get closer together, Mars seems to stop and then go backwards (retrograde) and then stop and go forward (stationary-direct). In the days following these stations, between a week and a month and a half, is when violent events and the start of wars tend to happen. The Sun-Mars opposition (when the Earth is between the Sun and Mars) happens half-way between the stations, which are about 2 to 3 months apart.
It happens every 2 years. It's not necessarily a religious conflict, unless Jupiter, Neptune or the signs Sagittarius and/or Pisces are involved. Wars tend to happen most often at these stations when Mars is also square or opposite Saturn and possibly Pluto; sometimes in trine too.
In January 2014, and then in April, were the previous 2 stations. January 2014 saw the uprising in Ukraine, and in April, the invasion by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. In that latter case, we had a grand cross of Mars, Jupiter, Pluto and Uranus. We have had a Mars station recently too, at the end of June.
In November 2020, Mars station-direct will happen, in Mars-sign Aries, and in mid-December it will be in square (active or aggressive aspect, 90 degrees apart) with Jupiter and Saturn as they form their conjunction at the winter solstice at 0 Aquarius, and Pluto in late Capricorn. With Jupiter involved, it seems likely religion will be involved. Look for any such war in December 2020. Earlier in September it turns retrograde, square Saturn. War may be possible then, but with Jupiter less involved then, it would be less likely to be a religious war. Usually though, the direct stations coincide more closely to the start of wars than retrograde stations.
Another famous case was late August 1939, when Mars turned stationary-direct in square to Saturn and opposite Pluto. The Russian-German non-aggression pact was announced that day. A week later Hitler invaded Poland. In August 2001, Mars had just turned stationary-direct in late July when it conjoined Pluto in Sagittarius (also a sign of flight as well as religion) and opposed Saturn in Gemini, just before Sagittarius' arrows flew into the Twin (Gemini) Towers (Saturn= structures) on Sept.11, 2001. An event I predicted.
When Mars returned to its position on Sept 11, 2001, and opposed Saturn and joined Pluto again, what I predicted to be "an upsurge in the 2001 war" happened-- the USA invasion of Iraq in early March 2003. The Sun was not opposing Mars then. The first Gulf War, as I predicted, happened soon after Mars turned stationary-direct on January 1, 1991, in close trine (120 degree angle) to Saturn. Because it was a harmonious trine, the war was "a cakewalk." (though it was a more arduous "walk" for the Kurds, and not so easy for the Shia in southern Iraq)
Any US civil war or US participation in this 2020 war or any war will happen when the USA Jupiter and Uranus Return cycles come around, which won't be until 2025-2026 now. The last Jupiter Return was in 2013-14, preceded by 2001, 1989-1990, 1977, 1965, 1953, 1941, 1929, 1917, 1906.... The Uranus Return Cycle = the modern saeculum, and the Return of the Crisis Climax: 2027, preceded by 1944, 1861, 1776, 1692, 1607.
In addition, in 2025-26 Neptune Returns to its position at 0 Aries when the civil war broke out (on the very same day it entered aggressive Aries) in April 1861.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoeW5fXJYU
Specifically, the perihelion/opposition of Mars will be on October 13, 2020, while the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction will be on December 21, 2020 (the last one, on May 31, 2000, was too close to the Sun from our vantage point to be visible), the closest these two events have come together since 1860-61. BTW, South Carolina seceded from the Union on December 20, 1860!
Numerology also enters the picture: The 2010s are a 3-decade, as were the 1920s - which largely explains why the 2010s feel so 3T-ish (this decade sure as hell feels 3T-ish to me). The 2020s will be a 4-decade, as were the 1930s (and also the depression-marred 1840s).
The key will be the 2018 mid-term elections, which offer two things to watch: First, will the Tea Party types drain the swamp and throw the laissez-faire-ists out of office? And second, will the Republicans gain a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate?
If the answer is Yes to the first OR No to the second, 2020 will become the realigning election - and likely, the election that touches off another civil war.
I'm glad you are tuned into this; something like that is right.
I could not find any reference to confirm that Mars will be in perihelion to the Sun on Oct 13, 2020, as I mentioned to you. It is not found in any astrology ephemeris nor in any astronomical data I could find on the internet. I notice that Mars is moving retrograde more slowly in Oct than during other oppositions; I don't know if that means it is closer; I suppose so. But Mars was not in opposition to the Sun on May 31, 2000. An "opposition" to Mars can only occur between the Sun, Earth and Mars; the word has no meaning without the Earth. This kind of "opposition" does happen on Oct 31, 2020, as my ephemeris shows.
But the pattern I notice, is that when Mars is in opposition to the Sun from Earth, and then makes a "station" and turns direct from our viewpoint, wars and violent events of great importance break out within a month or a few weeks after the station. And in 2020, Mars will also be in square aspect to the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in December 2020, which can be a violent angle or aspect according to astrology. And Mars in the sign Aries reminds us of Pearl Harbor. So a war is likely to break out then or in January, if patterns hold. That would fit with a civil war being declared after a new administration begins on Jan. 20th. Other patterns, such as the all-important and saeculum-defining Uranus Return, happen later though. And when it does, around 2025-27, the Jupiter cycle of US war will be in play too. So it has always looked to me like any civil war or other war involving the USA would not happen in 2020, but about 4-5 years later after the election of 2024. The war at the end of 2020 will likely be another mid-east conflagration, or perhaps another Russian invasion westward, or an East-Asian conflict; maybe all three at once.
But the 2020 election could well be a change of direction. If patterns work out as I hope, rather than as I fear (and as Warren, Classic Xer, Galen et al hope), the 2020s will be a progressive decade like the 1960s, 1900s, (to some extent) the 1840s, and the 1780s. It's a 60-year return of the positions of Jupiter and Saturn. I see the 2020 conjunction election resembling the 1960 one, when JFK said "let us begin" and got the country moving toward progress, including in the "progressive" sense of progress. But, once things got moving, they got unstable and more violent about 5 years later. Such will be the pattern again, it has always looked like to me. Certainly, events during particular decades tend to happen as a unit.
The Tea Party types ARE the laissez-fairists. You tend to get ideological alliances confused, with your interesting but unique point of view. But it's going to be much more straight-forward than you think. The battle remains typical red-blue, as we have known it.