It's in the "stars" (predicting by astrology and other means)

[Eric the Green]

(12-14-2016, 06:21 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: A portion of my latest historic "who scored what" list. More at the website:
http://philosopherswheel.com/presidentialelections.html

Elections from 1932 to 2012:
1932: Franklin D Roosevelt 21-4 U, Herbert Hoover 11-11*
1936: Franklin D Roosevelt 21-4 U*, Alf Landon 10-16
1940: Franklin D Roosevelt 21-4 U*, Wendell Wilkie 8-9
1944: Franklin D Roosevelt 21-4 U, Thomas Dewey 8-6 SN
1948: Harry Truman 14-0, Thomas Dewey 8-6 SN
1952: Dwight Eisenhower 17-8, Adlai Stevenson 5-21
1856: Dwight Eisenhower 17-8, Adlai Stevenson 5-21*
1960: John F Kennedy 13-6, Richard Nixon 18-7
1964: Lyndon Johnson 8-6 J*, Barry Goldwater 20-11** (he had Mars in Scorpio rising, with inharmonious aspects: the perfect symbol of his stubborn "extremism")
1968: Richard Nixon 18-7*, Hubert Humphrey 9-5**, George Wallace 2-7 J (+ Mars rising)
1972: Richard Nixon 18-7*, George McGovern 9-10
1976: Jimmy Carter 12-4, Gerald Ford 12-8
1980: Ronald Reagan 21-6, Jimmy Carter 12-4*, John Anderson 14-8 J*
1984: Ronald Reagan 21-6, Walter Mondale 12-12 J/U*
1988: George H W Bush 14-6, Michael Dukakis 2-10*
1992: Bill Clinton 21-3 J, George H W Bush 14-6, Ross Perot 7-10 (his Jupiter rising is evident, but it was 10 degrees above his ascendant, so I didn't count it officially)
1996: Bill Clinton 21-3 J, Bob Dole 12-19
2000: George W Bush 17-2*, Al Gore 10-9 (Mars rising)
2004: George W Bush 17-2*, John Kerry 8-12 (his score was much weaker in the revised system)
2008: Barack Obama 19-2, John McCain 15-13
2012: Barack Obama 19-2, Mitt Romney 4-10 U, SN
2016: Donald Trump 9-4 (Mars rising), Hillary Rodham Clinton 9-11 J

J = Jupiter rising in birth chart (big advantage). U = Uranus rising in birth chart (small advantage). SN = Saturn at the Nadir in birth chart (disadvantage).
* Saturn Return ** Saturn Return before opponent. Big disadvantage. If it occurs in election year or first 3 years after election, loss all but certain. In 4th year (potential re-election year), loss possible; big disaster and/or destroyed presidency all but certain. Since 1932: FDR, Johnson, Nixon and Bush all had a Saturn Return in the 4th (re-election) year.

Highest Republican actual and potential candidate scores with no Saturn return due: Donald Trump 9-4, Ivanka Trump 16-2, Carly Fiorina 16-7, George Pataki 15-3. Our future "energy secretary" Rick Perry looks a little better at 11-8.

Democratic potential or actual candidates 2012-2016 (or later)
Hillary Clinton, 9-11 J
Martin O'Malley, 11-19
Joe Biden, 13-8
Elizabeth Warren, 8-7
Bernie Sanders, 14-7
Jim Webb, 11-7
Tim Kaine, 11-11
Michelle Obama, 6-6
Andrew Cuomo, 11-6*
Cory Booker, 6-7
Zephyr Teachout, 4-10
Joe Manchin, 6-10
Howard Dean, 6-8 U
Janet Napolitano, 11-5*
Tammy Baldwin, 13-6
Jason Carter, 10-4
Joe & Julian Castro, 8-13
Terry McAuliffe, 11-2*
Gavin Newsom, 8-1 U
Antonio Villaraigosa, 15-5
Lincoln Chafee, 15-9
Sherrod Brown, 19-8
Tulsi Gabbard, 11-6
Tom Vilsack, 15-6
Jack Markell, 14-9
Chuck Schumer, 15-8
Debbie Stabenow, 8-3
Roy Cooper, 10-4
Mark Zuckerberg (party unknown), 12-9
George Clooney, 11-17
Oprah Winfrey, 10-3
Chelsea Clinton, 9-5 U

More candidate scores will be added. Other scores are available at my website: http://philosopherswheel.com/presidentialelections.html

Best scores, with no Saturn Return: Bernie Sanders 14-7, Gavin Newsom 8-1, Antonio Villaraigosa, 15-5, Tom Vilsack, 15-6, Oprah Winfrey, 10-3, Jason Carter 10-4, Roy Cooper, 10-4. Sherrod Brown has the highest positive number, and a good score: 19-8.

Other potential Democratic candidates with good scores, with no Saturn Return after 2020: Janet Napolitano 11-5, Terry McAuliffe 11-2. Tammy Baldwin (13-6) will have a Saturn Return for the election of 2020, and Gavin Newsom (8-1) for 2024. Late-night TV political comic Seth Meyers has indicated no interest in running, but if he did, he'd have a 20-3 score going for him. Another media personality with a good score is documentary producer Michael Moore, 16-6, and Oprah Winfrey has 10-3. Stephen Colbert has a high positive number and a score of 20-11. Maybe another celebrity can save us!

*Saturn return due between 2016 and 2020

I decided to drop Sun square/opposite Saturn as an unfavorable aspect, and put Moon square/opposite Mars in instead. Sun-Saturn is notable as an aspect of presidents during crisis and 4T periods. 

So a few changes happened. Some show-biz candidates benefited from this change, suggesting they might appeal as 4T candidates. Seth Meyers looks even better at 20-3, and Oprah is now 10-3. Michael Moore improved to 16-6. Also, the CA governor candidates Gavin Newsom and Antonio Villaraigosa look better too. But Gavin has a Saturn Return due for the 2024 election, so he would do better to wait until after then, and serve a full 2 terms as governor if he's elected.

Meanwhile Ivanka Trump's score went back down a little, though still very high at 16-2, because she has that moody Moon-Mars aspect.

Hey, with Seth Meyers at 20-3 (birth time still unknown), maybe it's time for a "closer look" at Seth!