03-11-2017, 10:49 PM
(03-11-2017, 11:07 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:(03-11-2017, 10:11 AM)Galen Wrote:(03-11-2017, 09:54 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Well typically the Russians trade land for time because they have a sekret weapon....General Frost. Both Napoleon and Hitler were unprepared for winter, and the meme that the Germans didn't issue winter uniforms is untrue (they did--its just that those uniforms were inadequate for Russia. Western Europe benefits from the gulf stream bringing warm water in their vicinity, Russia being continental does not benefit from that and thus consequently has a much colder climate in winter, and oppressively hot summers.
The way I learned it was the Russia has two unbeatable generals which are named General January and General February. In 1942 they also had General December.
(03-11-2017, 09:54 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: But yeah Russians, like most other animals, don't like being backed into a corner.
Trouble is that the Russians aren't mere animals. They may not fight for any particular government but they will fight for Mother Russia with a ferocity that most other people don't understand. Putin is a Christian himself but he also knows this which is why he is encouraging the return Russia's normal culture. Unless the US government regains some measure of sanity, he figures that he will need Russia's traditional culture to survive the coming war. Putin may be many things but a fool is not one of them.
On point 1. General Frost is a Field Marshal while Generals December, January and February are just Lt. Generals. The joke is based on a Russian Language idiom. One of the reasons why I miss Justin 77.
On Point 2. Yeah, the Russian people are tied to their territory and to their church. So strongly in fact that not even 70 years of communism could break it. And Stalin tried, he really really did try.
I don't know Russian but the point of the joke definitely stands. As for trying to stamp out Russia's traditional culture, Stalin tried so hard that he made Hitler look like a second story man with body count he racked up.
(03-11-2017, 11:07 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:(03-11-2017, 10:56 AM)Odin Wrote: Who said anything about INVADING Russia? This is about a show of strength.
Russia interprets "showing strength" as a preparation for invasion. Considering that they've been invaded several times in the past five centuries. (Napoleon and Hitler obviously but less well known invasions too by the Poles, Swedes, and Turks too) I think they have just cause.
This is a crucial point that Odin misses because he is also clueless about history in general and Russian history in particular. Probably doesn't know what the Great Patriotic War was and understanding that would probably enlighten him as to why poking Russia with a stick is a really bad idea.
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If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises