03-30-2017, 10:22 PM
(03-30-2017, 09:53 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: Bob, I'm not going to get into a long debate over what is and is not garbage. One either agrees with TR or one does not. I happen to agree with him.
Yep. Woo is subjective, emotional and values driven. We've likely both made our point, with little to be gained by repeating it.
(03-30-2017, 09:53 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: As to regarding heritage. I'm fine with people eating their tacos, or their sauerkraut, and whatever other nonsense that they want to eat. I could care less if one celebrates Passover, or Easter or some Hindu holiday. That is not what is at contention with hyphenated Americans. What is at contention is where one's allegiance is. Ether one is aligned with the Republic or one is not. Anyone who is not 100% aligned with the Republic needs to go. I don't care if they were born in East Tumbleweed Iowa or Timbuktu. The country is not in the position to afford having fifth columns in it. That is the nature of 4Ts.
Show me some real fifth columns, and I'd be with you in defending against them. The amount of emotional and political heat is way out of proportion with the threat.
(03-30-2017, 09:53 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: With reguard to morality--I find it impossible to expect one to care for those outside of one's own tribe if one doesn't care for those in one's own tribe. It is like expecting the man who lives in filth to be capable of cleaning an other's house. That being said if one wants to discuss who is and who is not drawing dividing lines among the American people on the basis of race, sex, sexuality and etc--one should be looking at the "blue team". I find it strange that the people who are supposedly fighting racism are obsessed with race.
If one has a conscience, if one considers it important to erase lines, one has to be aware of the lines.
(03-30-2017, 09:53 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: WRT Jefferson--Yeah he gets a lot of press. Personally I prefer Adams. But if one wants to talk about imporant figures I'd put TR up there pretty highly along with Lincoln and Fredrick Douglas.
Honorable names, all. I do like some of what TR did, including the Square Deal which was a prototype for FDR's New Deal. I'm less enthusiastic for how he help shift US imperial expansionism away from pushing the native Americans around to entering the international stage. Well, that was the times, I suppose. Coal was driving the navies of the world. If one was going to be a player one needed coaling stations. He was a man if his times, but those times are gone.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.