05-05-2017, 07:27 AM
(05-05-2017, 03:56 AM)Galen Wrote:(05-04-2017, 04:20 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(05-04-2017, 01:48 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: But you think it's OK for Trump Duginist scum to be violent?
There's a pattern here. Antifa are the real fascists/terrorists. Anyone who uses violence to further some political agenda is a terrorist. If the Trumpers do that, then the same judgment goes to them. Just look at what happened in Olympia Washington on May Day. They're also fucking litterbugs who have no have no regard for mother earth. Even the Trumpers don't go and break shit like the antifa.
When the very people you claim to be fighting for are throwing rocks at you it is time to think about what you are doing. So far as I know the Trump crowds haven't been engaging in this kind of destructive behavior. So far when I look into these incidents it is always the Antifa crowd that starts the violence. Given that these people are Communists anyway, this is hardly surprising.
They are not on my side.
This said, we must remember that Donald Trump has resurrected the class struggle by a path intended to lead to the subjection of 95% of the people on behalf a Master Class of about 2%. That Master Class includes all of the traditional elites that Karl Marx said exploit Humanity to the fullest if they can get away with it:
1. big landowners, at one time simply owners of the farmland but now exploitative urban landlords like Donald Trump
2. industrialists and financiers
3. sell-out intellectuals ( lobbyists, right-wing hack writers, corrupt clergy, and political puppets of the Right)
and a class that emerged in 'Socialist' states and capitalist states alike:
4. the managerial nomenklatura which needs no property to have the means of exploiting the masses severely. See Milovan Djilas' The New Class for a description of this reality in 'Socialist' Yugoslavia but now very real in the USA.
The merger of Government and Big Business can happen two ways: when a corrupt and tyrannical government nationalizes property in the supposed name of the workers but gives the workers no more say in economics than in politics, or when Big Business captures government, as in Italy under Mussolini or America under Donald Trump.
If we are fortunate we will get a replay of 1776 in America.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.