Donald Trump: polls of approval and favorability

[Bob Butler 54]

(07-24-2017, 01:45 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: Back in the 1980s, the SJ Mercury had a piece in one of its Sunday editions about CW2. In their scenario the New Confederacy was "El Dorado." It consisted of part of the Midwest, all of Dixie and all of the non Coastal Western US. That was the demographic reality of the 1980s. Well, El Dorado has shrunk some over the past 30+ years. But you can still see it on these maps.

This still seems urban / rural to me. It seems rather obvious that a culture optimized for one part of the country won't fit the other well. Alas, there are lots of rural areas near the coasts, and urban areas in the middle. [irony] Meanwhile, the focus is so much on 'fixing' or 'defeating' that other part of the country which is broke and misguided, while this part of the country is ever so full of common sense. [/irony]

OK. I'm half way into that trap too. I see the unraveling memes as having being over done. I see the division of wealth too large. I see people thinking of themselves and their own group rather than the country. I also see coastal folk forcing their way of life on rural folk, and on certain issues the opposite is tried. I also see folk genuinely believing in the unraveling memes, trying ever so hard to find politicians that can make them work. How does one respect things while changing them?

At this point, I'd rather find out what each group really thinks it needs while avoiding tripping too much over the other people. Alas, no, there is too much a lock into a confrontational pattern which has been ever so useful to the Establishment. The real and perpetual problem may be less urban against rural than division of wealth.

While if you stick with state boundaries you get something like El Dorado, if you look at counties the urban v rural divide become obvious. The tactical battle lines aren't nearly as clear and obvious as in the first Civil War era. I'm also not seeing any alleged pre Civil War II violence escalate. It's easy to put off the violence if one ends up in power every four to eight years. If we're going to do more than win a term or two with one side or the other dominant, the need to listen and respect becomes real.