10-13-2017, 10:44 PM
(10-11-2017, 05:37 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:(10-10-2017, 08:39 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: > Except one. If Russia is going to be our ally, then why all the
> fuss over Russian X, where X = trolls, #fakenews,etc.?
> If #fakenews works so well, why aren't we doing it? It has a lot
> fewer causalities.
Quote:Russia will be our ally for the same reason that Stalin was our ally -
they're less worse than the alternative.
Yes, of course, politics does make for strange bed fellows we all know. War is just politics by force.
Quote:In my opinion, fake news and trolls do no good at all except produce
political chaos. Russia's trolls and fake news claim that Russia
didn't invade Crimea, and yet there are still American and European
sanctions on Russia for invading Crimea. Russia claims they didn't
shoot down the airliner, but everyone believes they did. Russia
claims that al-Assad didn't use Sarin gas, but everyone believes they
did. In my opinion, Russia's fake news and trolls not only did them
no good, they caused enormous harm, because Russian officials and
media have almost no credibility any more.
I'd call the above as Russian propaganda I'd call "political chaos" as an actual actionable goal for say the CIA. I do think the CIA has
done this actionable goal by other means. The CIA just needs to take the #Fakenews and do it themselves. I have no issue with CIA troll farms added to that they already do. Btw, I've caught CNN doing fake news. They sed it was illegal to look at Wikileaks, which is obviously #Fakenews. Then again, maybe the CIA already has troll farms. CNN seams to act sorta like Russia trolls.
Quote:I believe that Vladimir Putin is repeating the same disastrous
historical mistake that Stalin made. Stalin was completely humiliated
and made a complete fool of by Hitler with the Molotov-Ribintroff
agreement, which was possibly the greatest diplomatic disaster in
Russia's history. Putin should be embracing Europe and the West, but
instead is sucking up to China, which is going to turn on Russia just
as Hitler did.
Speaking of Russia, I think we ourselves can learn lessons from them ourselves.
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