10-26-2017, 01:45 PM
(10-25-2017, 11:54 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: > On the other hand, Xi does believe that the party can control the
> people. After all Mao did it during the revolution, and again in
> the cultural revolution.
I'm sure Xi also remembers Mao's Great Leap Forward, in which the
"revolution" went completely out of control, and tens of millions of
people were executed or starved to death. It was a total Socialist
disaster.
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(10-25-2017, 11:54 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: > Under Deng, Tiananmen - incidentally a probable approximate
> example of your 58 year rule with respect to the gap between the
> death of Chou En Lai and the death of Yuan Shikai, the latter of
> which initiated a bloodbath in the form of the Warlord Era -
> demonstrated that the government could put down a popular
> uprising. Xi probably believes that he could handle any revolt
> equally well.
I'm sure he does, just like Hitler.
(10-25-2017, 11:54 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: > Except that, as you point out, any actual socialism in China has
> already fallen apart, and China has been more capitalist than the
> US for a couple of decades now.
I have no idea how you measure that. Do you have some numeric measure
to back this up? Also, do you have a numeric comparison to Nazi
Germany?
The point that I was trying to make is that pure Socialism is
mathematically impossible, and pure Capitalism is politically
impossible. There's very likely some universal constant representing
the percentage of the country's GDP under regulatory control, and that
roughly the same percentage applies to both nominally Socialist and
nominally Capitalist societies.
Therefore, the choice of whether to call an economy Socialist or
Capitalist cannot be determined numerically, and therefore it's a
completely political choice.
So China says that its economy is "Socialist with Chinese
Characteristics," and therefore it's Socialist. America calls itself
Capitalist, and therefore its economy is Capitalist. Hitler said that
it was National Socialist, so therefore it was Socialist.
During the last few days I've been reading some of Hitler's old
speeches.
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster...0Index.htm
Hitler constantly talks about Socialism and National Socialism.
In one of his speeches, he compared Germany and Italy and said:
Hitler Wrote:> Both Revolutions [[Germany and Italy]] had about the same course;
> each one had severe setbacks, but finally won the fight. Both
> nations brought about a socialistic, national
> renaissance.
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster....01.30.htm
So there's no doubt from Hitler's speeches that Nazi Germany was
Socialist, and there's no doubt from Xi's speeches that China is
Socialist. Both versions of Socialism are highly nationalistic and
xenophobic, and so both of them are forms of National Socialism. And
both of them are the agents of historic catastrophes.
