05-12-2016, 05:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-13-2016, 07:37 PM by Eric the Green.)
Here's the statistical pattern for candidate scores for general elections now.
(score is # of aspects I have deemed positive, vs. those I have deemed negative for winning presidential elections, based mostly on which candidates had which aspects in their horoscopes. The strongest positive and negative aspects get 2 or more points, and close aspects get an extra point.)
Elections before 1932:
Elections from 1932 to 2012:
1932: Franklin D Roosevelt 18-6 U, Herbert Hoover 8-12*
1936: Franklin D Roosevelt 18-6 U, Alf Landon 11-19
1940: Franklin D Roosevelt 18-6 U*, Wendell Willkie 6-9
1944: Franklin D Roosevelt 18-6 U, Thomas Dewey 10-4 SN
1948: Harry Truman 16-0, Thomas Dewey 10-4 SN
1952: Dwight Eisenhower 17-8, Adlai Stevenson 7-19
Here's how the pattern stacks up. Since 1932, out of 21 winners of presidential elections, only 3 had lower scores on this system than the loser: JFK (1960), LBJ (1964) and Reagan (1980) (13.6%). In all 57 presidential elections in US history through 2012, only 11 winners had lower scores than their losing opponents (19.3%). 46 had higher scores (80.7%).
J = candidate also has Jupiter rising in his/her horoscope; U = Uranus rising; could well be positive factors. SN = Saturn at the Nadir in the birthchart, likely a negative factor. *candidate had Saturn Return; **candidate had Saturn Return before his opponent did. This indicates obstacles to getting elected or to surviving the term intact.
For all 57 elections in history through 2012, of the 11 losers who had higher scores than the winners, only 4 of them did not have a Saturn Return coming to block them. That's only 4 out of 63 losing candidates who had higher scores than their opponents, without any Saturn Return, or 0.6%. These were Thomas Jefferson in 1796, John Quincy Adams in 1820, Alton B. Parker in 1904, and Richard Nixon in 1960. 3 of these went on to become president later.
Theodore Roovevelt was an amazing fellow. He may have been the only candidate to transform himself, beat the odds, and beat the swords in his chart into plowshares for himself and the country.
Conclusion: most of the time, the losing candidate had a lower score than the winner, and/or a Saturn Return coming in current election year or the next 4 years.
Next, here's the list of recent candidates and their scores.
Republican potential or actual candidates 2012-2016 (or later):
Newt Gingrich, 9-8 SN
Rick Santorum, 6-14
Rick Perry, 11-11
Michelle Bachman, 12-11
Herman Cain, 9-10
Buddy Roemer, 10-9
Ron Paul, 15-8
Jeb Bush, 9-11
Chris Christie, 15-23
Mitch Daniels, 15-15
Mike Huckabee, 12-11
John Boehner, 10-13
Ted Cruz, 3-12 U
Paul Ryan, 10-12
Marco Rubio, 13-7
Bobby Jindal, 13-12
Rand Paul, 11-10
John Thune, 10-10*
Scott Walker, 9-11
Peter King, 7-8
John Kasich, 2-14
Ben Carson, 6-6
Rob Portman, 14-8
Sam Brownback, 9-9
Kelly Ayotte, 13-9
Lindsay Graham, 2-4
Al Franken, 9-7
Best score, with no Saturn return: Bernie Sanders, 14-5, Jason Carter, 10-4, and Sherrod Brown, 24-11
(score is # of aspects I have deemed positive, vs. those I have deemed negative for winning presidential elections, based mostly on which candidates had which aspects in their horoscopes. The strongest positive and negative aspects get 2 or more points, and close aspects get an extra point.)
Elections before 1932:
1789-92: George Washington 17-4, unopposed
1796: John Adams 9-5, Thomas Jefferson 7-0
1800: Thomas Jefferson 7-0, John Adams 9-5
1804: Thomas Jefferson 7-0, Charles Pinckney 6-14, Burr 6-9
1808: James Madison 11-8, Charles Pinckney 6-14
1812: James Madison 11-8, DeWitt Clinton, 9-12
1816: James Monroe 6-4 U, Rufus King 6-9
1820: James Monroe 6-4 U, John Quincy Adams 7-3
1824: J Q Adams 7-3*, Andrew Jackson 11-3**, Henry Clay 6-13
1828: Andrew Jackson 11-3, J Q Adams 7-3
1832: Andrew Jackson 11-3, Henry Clay 6-13*
1836: Martin Van Buren 7-3, William Henry Harrison 14-8 U
1840: W H Harrison 14-8 U, Martin Van Buren 7-3*
1844: James K Polk 21-2 J, Henry Clay 6-13
1848: Zachary Taylor 10-5 J, Lewis Cass 6-15
1852: Franklin Pierce 13-14, Winfield Scott 8-21
1856: James Buchanan 13-6, John C. Fremont 9-8 SN, Millard Fillmore 12-5*
1860: Abraham Lincoln 16-2 J, Stephen A Douglas 13-18, John Breckinridge 2-23 J, John Bell 4-15
1864: Abraham Lincoln 16-2 J*, George McClellan 13-13
1868: Ulysses S. Grant 16-4 J, Horatio Seymour 6-12*
1872: Ulysses S. Grant 16-4 J, Horace Greeley 4-12
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes 10-3, Samuel J. Tilden 3-12
1880: James A Garfield 8-11, Winfield Hancock 9-11*
1884: Grover Cleveland 13-9, James G. Blaine 8-10*
1888: Benjamin Harrison 14-9*, Grover Cleveland 13-9
1892: Grover Cleveland 13-9*, Benjamin Harrison 14-9**
1896: William McKinley 12-3, William Jennings Bryan 6-6 U, SN
1900: William McKinley 12-3*, William Jennings Bryan 6-6 U, SN
1904: Theodore Roosevelt 12-12 J, Alton B Parker 17-8
1908: William H. Taft 13-9 J/U, SN, William Jennings Bryan 6-6 U, SN
1912: Woodrow Wilson 13-7**, Theodore Roosevelt 12-12 J, William H. Taft 13-9 J/U, SN*
1916: Woodrow Wilson 13-7**, Charles Evans Hughes 5-8*
1920: Warren G Harding 15-10*, James Cox 10-7
1924: Calvin Coolidge 12-10, John W. Davis 10-17, Robert LaFollette 8-12
1928: Herbert Hoover 8-12, Al Smith 5-10*
Elections from 1932 to 2012:
1932: Franklin D Roosevelt 18-6 U, Herbert Hoover 8-12*
1936: Franklin D Roosevelt 18-6 U, Alf Landon 11-19
1940: Franklin D Roosevelt 18-6 U*, Wendell Willkie 6-9
1944: Franklin D Roosevelt 18-6 U, Thomas Dewey 10-4 SN
1948: Harry Truman 16-0, Thomas Dewey 10-4 SN
1952: Dwight Eisenhower 17-8, Adlai Stevenson 7-19
1856: Dwight Eisenhower 17-8, Adlai Stevenson 7-19*
1960: John F Kennedy 13-6, Richard Nixon 17-6
1964: Lyndon Johnson 10-6 J*, Barry Goldwater 19-9** (he had Mars in Scorpio rising, with inharmonious aspects: the perfect symbol of his stubborn "extremism")
1968: Richard Nixon 17-6*, Hubert Humphrey 11-4**, George Wallace 2-6 J (+ Mars rising)
1972: Richard Nixon 17-6, George McGovern 10-12
1976: Jimmy Carter 14-3, Gerald Ford 14-4
1980: Ronald Reagan 19-5, Jimmy Carter 14-3*
1984: Ronald Reagan 19-5 Walter Mondale 11-13 J/U*
1988: George H W Bush 15-4, Michael Dukakis 2-12*
1992: Bill Clinton 19-2 J, George H W Bush 15-4, Ross Perot 7-11
1996: Bill Clinton 19-2 J, Bob Dole 13-20
2000: George W Bush 18-3, Al Gore 12-7
2004: George W Bush 18-3*, John Kerry 5-8 (his score was not as strong in the revised system)
2008: Barack Obama 18-3, John McCain 15-14
2012: Barack Obama 18-3, Mitt Romney 4-10 U, SN
1960: John F Kennedy 13-6, Richard Nixon 17-6
1964: Lyndon Johnson 10-6 J*, Barry Goldwater 19-9** (he had Mars in Scorpio rising, with inharmonious aspects: the perfect symbol of his stubborn "extremism")
1968: Richard Nixon 17-6*, Hubert Humphrey 11-4**, George Wallace 2-6 J (+ Mars rising)
1972: Richard Nixon 17-6, George McGovern 10-12
1976: Jimmy Carter 14-3, Gerald Ford 14-4
1980: Ronald Reagan 19-5, Jimmy Carter 14-3*
1984: Ronald Reagan 19-5 Walter Mondale 11-13 J/U*
1988: George H W Bush 15-4, Michael Dukakis 2-12*
1992: Bill Clinton 19-2 J, George H W Bush 15-4, Ross Perot 7-11
1996: Bill Clinton 19-2 J, Bob Dole 13-20
2000: George W Bush 18-3, Al Gore 12-7
2004: George W Bush 18-3*, John Kerry 5-8 (his score was not as strong in the revised system)
2008: Barack Obama 18-3, John McCain 15-14
2012: Barack Obama 18-3, Mitt Romney 4-10 U, SN
Best scores of any nominee: Harry Truman, 1948 (16-0), James K Polk, 1844 (21-2). Worst score: John Breckinridge, 1860 (2-23 J). Lowest score by a winning candidate: Herbert Hoover, 1928 (8-12). Highest score by a losing candidate: Jimmy Carter, 1980 (14-3), felled by a Saturn Return to Ronald Reagan (19-5). Carter had beat Gerald Ford (14-4) in 1976. In all 57 elections, only 3 winners had a negative horoscope score (.05%) By contrast, 35 losers had a negative score (55% of 63). 18 losers had a positive score, but 12 of them were also winners in other elections.
Here's how the pattern stacks up. Since 1932, out of 21 winners of presidential elections, only 3 had lower scores on this system than the loser: JFK (1960), LBJ (1964) and Reagan (1980) (13.6%). In all 57 presidential elections in US history through 2012, only 11 winners had lower scores than their losing opponents (19.3%). 46 had higher scores (80.7%).
J = candidate also has Jupiter rising in his/her horoscope; U = Uranus rising; could well be positive factors. SN = Saturn at the Nadir in the birthchart, likely a negative factor. *candidate had Saturn Return; **candidate had Saturn Return before his opponent did. This indicates obstacles to getting elected or to surviving the term intact.
For all 57 elections in history through 2012, of the 11 losers who had higher scores than the winners, only 4 of them did not have a Saturn Return coming to block them. That's only 4 out of 63 losing candidates who had higher scores than their opponents, without any Saturn Return, or 0.6%. These were Thomas Jefferson in 1796, John Quincy Adams in 1820, Alton B. Parker in 1904, and Richard Nixon in 1960. 3 of these went on to become president later.
Theodore Roovevelt was an amazing fellow. He may have been the only candidate to transform himself, beat the odds, and beat the swords in his chart into plowshares for himself and the country.
Conclusion: most of the time, the losing candidate had a lower score than the winner, and/or a Saturn Return coming in current election year or the next 4 years.
Next, here's the list of recent candidates and their scores.
Republican potential or actual candidates 2012-2016 (or later):
Newt Gingrich, 9-8 SN
Rick Santorum, 6-14
Rick Perry, 11-11
Michelle Bachman, 12-11
Herman Cain, 9-10
Buddy Roemer, 10-9
Ron Paul, 15-8
Jeb Bush, 9-11
Chris Christie, 15-23
Mitch Daniels, 15-15
Mike Huckabee, 12-11
John Boehner, 10-13
Ted Cruz, 3-12 U
Paul Ryan, 10-12
Marco Rubio, 13-7
Bobby Jindal, 13-12
Rand Paul, 11-10
John Thune, 10-10*
Scott Walker, 9-11
Peter King, 7-8
John Kasich, 2-14
Ben Carson, 6-6
Rob Portman, 14-8
Sam Brownback, 9-9
Kelly Ayotte, 13-9
Lindsay Graham, 2-4
Carly Fiorina, 16-6
Donald Trump, 8-4 (Mars rising)
Jim Gilmore, 10-18
George Pataki, 15-4
Sarah Palin, 5-5
George P. Bush, 6-7
Nikki Haley, 9-16
Highest scores with no Saturn return: Donald Trump 8-4, Carly Fiorina 16-6, Marco Rubio 13-7, George Pataki 14-4
Democratic potential or actual candidates 2012-2016
Hillary Clinton, 12-9 J
Martin O'Malley 12-20
Joe Biden 13-7
Elizabeth Warren, 9-6
Bernie Sanders, 14-5
Jim Webb, 12-6
Zephyr Teachout, 5-9
Joe Manchin, 7-7
Kirsten Gillibrand, 6-15
Andrew Cuomo, 12-6*
Cory Booker, 4-4
Brian Schweitzer, 10-7
Howard Dean, 5-11
Tammy Baldwin, 11-6
Janet Napolitano, 13-6*
Mark Warner, 7-8
Richard Blumenthal, 10-5
John Hickenlooper, 6-11
Jan Schakowski, 11-10
Bob Casey, 5-10*
Rahm Emmanuel, 13-12*
Jack Markell, 12-7*
Dan Malloy, 8-8
Joe Kennedy III, 6-6
Duvall Patrick, 7-6
Amy Klobuchar, 6-7*
Tim Kaine, 12-8*
George Clooney, 9-14
Donald Berwick, 10-5
Russ Feingold, 12-17
Jason Carter, 10-4
Wendy Davis, 6-24
Joe & Julian Castro, 11-10
Terry McAuliffe, 11-4*
Bill DeBlazio, 10-19
Gavin Newsom, 7-4
Jerry Brown, 4-8
Highest scores with no Saturn return: Donald Trump 8-4, Carly Fiorina 16-6, Marco Rubio 13-7, George Pataki 14-4
Democratic potential or actual candidates 2012-2016
Hillary Clinton, 12-9 J
Martin O'Malley 12-20
Joe Biden 13-7
Elizabeth Warren, 9-6
Bernie Sanders, 14-5
Jim Webb, 12-6
Zephyr Teachout, 5-9
Joe Manchin, 7-7
Kirsten Gillibrand, 6-15
Andrew Cuomo, 12-6*
Cory Booker, 4-4
Brian Schweitzer, 10-7
Howard Dean, 5-11
Tammy Baldwin, 11-6
Janet Napolitano, 13-6*
Mark Warner, 7-8
Richard Blumenthal, 10-5
John Hickenlooper, 6-11
Jan Schakowski, 11-10
Bob Casey, 5-10*
Rahm Emmanuel, 13-12*
Jack Markell, 12-7*
Dan Malloy, 8-8
Joe Kennedy III, 6-6
Duvall Patrick, 7-6
Amy Klobuchar, 6-7*
Tim Kaine, 12-8*
George Clooney, 9-14
Donald Berwick, 10-5
Russ Feingold, 12-17
Jason Carter, 10-4
Wendy Davis, 6-24
Joe & Julian Castro, 11-10
Terry McAuliffe, 11-4*
Bill DeBlazio, 10-19
Gavin Newsom, 7-4
Jerry Brown, 4-8
Lincoln Chafee, 14-9
Michelle Obama, 6-8
Sherrod Brown, 24-11Al Franken, 9-7
Best score, with no Saturn return: Bernie Sanders, 14-5, Jason Carter, 10-4, and Sherrod Brown, 24-11
*Saturn return due between 2016 and 2020
Some major Independent/3rd party candidates:
Ross Perot, 8-11
Gary Johnson (Libertarian), 12-11
Ralph Nader (Green, Independent), 6-10
John Anderson, 11-6
Ross Perot, 8-11
Gary Johnson (Libertarian), 12-11
Ralph Nader (Green, Independent), 6-10
John Anderson, 11-6
Jill Stein (Green), 15-4
Sanders, see Democrats
Sanders, see Democrats
Potential:
Mike Bloomberg, 7-5
Jesse Ventura, 15-9 U+Mars rising
Some past candidates not nominated:
Robert F Kennedy, 15-14
Ted Kennedy, 7-15
Edmund S Muskie, 9-8
Gary Hart, 10-15 U
Rudy Guiliani, 9-11
John Edwards, 11-9 U
Dennis Kucinich, 10-8
Howard Dean, 5-11 U
Wesley Clark, 9-17
Eugene McCarthy, 11-5 U