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08-19-2018, 08:38 PM

Biden revised score: 14-7, same as Sanders. Not quite as high as Trump, 9-4. Not enough for either one to beat Trump if the new moon forecasts incumbent party victory, which it does; though with caveats (Uranus square the Ascendant in that new moon chart, as in 2016; Jupiter-Saturn zero-year conjunction is a disadvantage to incumbent party, and used to indicate the death in office of whoever was elected). http://philosopherswheel.com/presidentialelections.html

Most likely to beat Trump: Landrieu and McAuliffe.

"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M

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Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 07-09-2018, 03:10 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Kinser79 - 08-19-2018, 08:39 AM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-19-2018, 12:29 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Kinser79 - 08-19-2018, 08:27 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Galen - 08-19-2018, 10:01 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-20-2018, 07:52 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-20-2018, 01:32 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Kinser79 - 08-21-2018, 03:40 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-21-2018, 05:33 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-21-2018, 08:23 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-21-2018, 02:45 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-22-2018, 10:46 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-21-2018, 09:55 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-21-2018, 10:52 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-21-2018, 12:57 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-21-2018, 10:10 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-21-2018, 09:36 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-19-2018, 07:35 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 08-19-2018, 08:38 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-20-2018, 02:10 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 08-21-2018, 12:15 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 08-21-2018, 05:34 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Kinser79 - 08-21-2018, 10:13 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Galen - 08-22-2018, 03:35 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-22-2018, 04:40 AM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 08-22-2018, 04:33 PM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Kinser79 - 08-22-2018, 07:20 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-25-2018, 11:22 PM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 08-26-2018, 01:05 PM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-27-2018, 10:49 AM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-28-2018, 10:19 AM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-09-2018, 11:32 AM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 09-18-2018, 08:22 PM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-18-2018, 10:17 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 09-19-2018, 03:28 PM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-17-2018, 03:33 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 09-15-2018, 04:26 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-15-2018, 09:31 PM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 09-17-2018, 12:00 AM

RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-17-2018, 03:42 PM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-17-2018, 10:11 PM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 09-07-2018, 08:45 AM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-18-2018, 05:40 PM

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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-19-2018, 04:37 PM

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