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Who Can Beat Trump?
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(08-21-2018, 08:23 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(08-21-2018, 05:33 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I would just as soon see democracy and human rights prevail, that autocratic elitist governments continue to fade, that there be less kings, slaves and dictators.

Who doesn't? But autocratic regimes have a tendency to implode. Such regimes might try to associate themselves with economic and social progress -- and invariably law-and-order -- proclaiming themselves as the bars to poverty and chaos. If democracy can work in Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan, then why can it not work in China?

China had a really ugly period between the opium wars all the way though Mao's cultural revolution.  I think they are very much afraid of revolution, of radical change.  I am not looking for China to move a lot from a bureaucracy that mixes the worst of capitalism and communism through tyranny.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.
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Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 07-09-2018, 03:10 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Kinser79 - 08-19-2018, 08:39 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-19-2018, 09:39 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-19-2018, 12:29 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Kinser79 - 08-19-2018, 08:27 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Galen - 08-19-2018, 10:01 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-20-2018, 07:52 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-20-2018, 01:32 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Kinser79 - 08-21-2018, 03:40 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-21-2018, 05:33 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-21-2018, 08:23 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-21-2018, 02:45 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-22-2018, 10:46 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-21-2018, 09:55 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-21-2018, 10:52 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-21-2018, 12:57 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-21-2018, 10:10 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-21-2018, 09:36 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-19-2018, 07:35 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 08-19-2018, 08:38 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-20-2018, 02:10 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 08-21-2018, 12:15 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 08-21-2018, 05:34 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Kinser79 - 08-21-2018, 10:13 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Galen - 08-22-2018, 03:35 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-22-2018, 04:40 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-22-2018, 06:19 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-22-2018, 01:07 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 08-22-2018, 04:33 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-22-2018, 05:08 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-22-2018, 05:21 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Kinser79 - 08-22-2018, 06:24 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-22-2018, 07:32 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-22-2018, 08:22 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-22-2018, 04:15 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-22-2018, 04:53 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 08-23-2018, 03:43 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-23-2018, 04:05 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 08-23-2018, 05:06 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-23-2018, 11:31 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-24-2018, 11:42 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 08-24-2018, 02:57 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-26-2018, 07:33 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-24-2018, 11:37 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 08-24-2018, 12:33 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-26-2018, 12:19 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Galen - 08-24-2018, 04:01 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-24-2018, 08:06 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-25-2018, 12:54 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Kinser79 - 08-22-2018, 07:20 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-25-2018, 11:22 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bad Dog - 08-22-2018, 10:05 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-23-2018, 12:00 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-23-2018, 12:06 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 08-23-2018, 02:44 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-23-2018, 03:00 PM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 08-26-2018, 06:35 AM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 08-26-2018, 01:05 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-26-2018, 04:33 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 08-27-2018, 10:49 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-27-2018, 12:14 PM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-29-2018, 11:34 AM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-03-2018, 10:44 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 09-07-2018, 08:41 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-04-2018, 12:15 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-04-2018, 02:21 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 09-04-2018, 10:26 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-05-2018, 03:08 AM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-07-2018, 01:49 PM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-08-2018, 05:47 AM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-08-2018, 08:42 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 09-08-2018, 10:10 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-09-2018, 11:32 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-09-2018, 01:08 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-10-2018, 08:21 PM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-15-2018, 09:45 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 09-16-2018, 07:37 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 09-16-2018, 11:03 AM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 09-17-2018, 07:10 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-17-2018, 07:26 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 09-17-2018, 09:03 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 09-18-2018, 08:22 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 09-18-2018, 09:25 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-18-2018, 10:17 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 09-19-2018, 03:28 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by pbrower2a - 09-19-2018, 03:45 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-17-2018, 03:33 PM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-15-2018, 09:31 PM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-17-2018, 03:42 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-17-2018, 07:03 PM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 09-07-2018, 08:48 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-07-2018, 10:02 AM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-18-2018, 03:47 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-18-2018, 05:40 PM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-18-2018, 07:52 PM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-18-2018, 11:44 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 09-19-2018, 03:52 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-19-2018, 04:37 PM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 09-23-2018, 09:30 AM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-19-2018, 11:48 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 09-20-2018, 06:31 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-21-2018, 12:08 AM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 09-23-2018, 09:22 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-19-2018, 02:10 AM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by David Horn - 09-26-2018, 12:20 PM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-25-2018, 08:21 AM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Classic-Xer - 09-25-2018, 05:01 PM
RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Galen - 09-26-2018, 02:55 AM
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RE: Who Can Beat Trump? - by Eric the Green - 09-24-2018, 03:34 AM
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