Who Can Beat Trump?

[Kinser79]

(08-22-2018, 03:35 AM)Galen Wrote:

(08-21-2018, 10:13 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: The Dims have been out to lunch for quite some time now.  I've not considered them to be a serious party in ages, and their establishment is even more out to lunch than the laity.

Do the Dims have more than sheer outrage at Trump to offer?  So far, after the last two years the answer seems to be no.  In the end people will look at their wallet and decide if they are better off.  Judging from how certain demographics are reacting it may be that many are coming to the conclusion that the Dims do not have anything to offer.

It is clear that we are in a fourth turning and it seems that the usual rules are breaking down which is to be expected in a Fourth Turning.  It would not be surprising if Trump is recognized as a necessary disruption to the status quo in the future.

I would argue he is more than that.  He is providing not only the necessary disruption to the previous status quo, but also providing the vision required to set up a new status quo.  In short he is in fact the quote, unquote, long awaited Gray Champion.  His main problem with the libtards liberal Boomers on this board is that he isn't the Gray Champion that they wanted.

An unfortunate consequence of more people living to elderhood seems to be that there more people around to whine about how their favorite pet project from the 2T isn't at the forefront of the 4T.

(08-22-2018, 05:21 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(08-22-2018, 03:35 AM)Galen Wrote:

(08-21-2018, 10:13 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: The Dims have been out to lunch for quite some time now.  I've not considered them to be a serious party in ages, and their establishment is even more out to lunch than the laity.

Do the Dims have more than sheer outrage at Trump to offer?  So far, after the last two years the answer seems to be no.  In the end people will look at their wallet and decide if they are better off.  Judging from how certain demographics are reacting it may be that many are coming to the conclusion that the Dims do not have anything to offer.

Crackpot source.

You should know crackpot sources being a crackpot.  How about the experiences of a Black man instead?  Locally, the black population where I'm from are trending more towards Trump, particularly the younger groups.  So far the only thinking Black person I know who thinks things are getting worse is my own mother--and with her I'm using the term loosely, I'm not convinced she actually thinks all that much (probably because she is so highly educated, a pattern I've noticed, the higher the educational attainment the less independent the thought process).  I think it is because she watches a steady diet of CNN an MSNBC which are known crackpot sources of disinformation.

Quote:If blacks have gaining in economics, it is because of such attributes as better education, dedication on the job (even on 'bad' jobs), greater mobility (commuting from poor sectors of cities to the suburbs where jobs are), and starting businesses.  Such has nothing to do with politics.

Then we should have seen large gains before Trump.  Is that true?  Not really.  Educational attainment has been largely static for a generation and unemployment has been twice that of whites for decades.  I large reason why Blacks are doing better is because expelling foreigners is causing a labor shortage and Black Americans getting of the welfare-Dimocrat-Plantation and into employment are replacing the remittance sending Mexicans.

People with jobs and property tend to be conservative.  Blacks already were socially conservative, and Trump making obtaining jobs and later property more possible will push that demographic right.  Add to that the Dims going full pink haired SJW mode makes an uncomfortable political marriage that much more uncomfortable.

Do not be confused, Maxine Waters does not speak for Black People.  I'm not even sure she speaks for the Black People in her own district seeing as she doesn't even reside in her district.

Quote:Donald Trump reminds most blacks of the licit capitalist that they least admire -- the landlord, as that is what he is. The perception about most landlords is that the landlord takes the rent money but creates few jobs and does not innovate. (OK, they are paying off lenders and taxing authorities, which may make them heavy creditors too). Blacks are more likely to be tenants than home-owners... and debtors instead of creditors. Both tendencies usually cause people to go to the left side of the political spectrum, as may explain the urban-rural split in the vote. People in the worst parts of Kentucky are more likely to own their dreadful hovels than are people in Silicon Valley who might pay 3K a month for a studio apartment and pay $500 a month to rent parking space. 

And you know all of this by being Black of course, and having your finger on the pulse of Black Culture don't you.  Since you claim to have a disorder that doesn't exist...Aspberger's I'm just going to tell you I'm being sarcastic.  I don't expect you to understand sarcasm because quite frankly my experience tells me you have great difficulty with anything outside of your narrow world view.

First, prior to 2015, when CNN discovered that Trump was suddenly "raycis" Trump was incredibly popular among Blacks.  So much so there are rap songs about aspiring to be like him.

Second, Trump's businesses is far more than simply being a landlord.  He is in fact a property developer which means that he not only creates construction jobs, he is far more likely to sell those properties after such development than he is to hold on to them.  Further, where he does not he has a reputation maintaining his properties--you know so he can charge a premium for renting the space he owns.

Third, being a debtor or renter is NOT racial in origin.  Unless of course it is your position that because someone is Black they cannot possibly be a creditor or own their own property.  Which of course begs the question who the real racists are.

Quote:...Outrage? Americans have consistently shown disdain for corruption. Despotic tendencies in pols? They have rarely seen such, so we are in uncharted waters on this.

Not really.  The Clintons and Obama are pretty much despised by everyone these days.  Manufactured outrage against Trump mostly just exists on the Tee-Vee and I would argue largely constituted of Dimocrat Mouth Pieces and professional malcontents.  Those of us who have to get on with day to day activities such as raising the kids, working and paying the taxes at worst see Trump as more of the same.

I'll leave off responding to the rest of your post here because it is more of the same old canned nonsense you've been posting for two years now and we already know my views on both that and the "points" you "bring up".  One of the reasons I don't post that much anymore is because I'm tired of beating dead horses, and it is evident to me that most of the Boomers here are too busy trying to convince themselves of their own positions to concern themselves with convincing others of their positions.  That makes for a poor debating atmosphere, and quite frankly I have better things to do, like running my business.