09-21-2018, 01:36 PM
(09-21-2018, 12:25 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(09-21-2018, 09:36 AM)David Horn Wrote:(09-21-2018, 07:48 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(09-21-2018, 07:11 AM)David Horn Wrote: Nixon who was the only President to resign in shame.
For the moment that is true... Not sure if you put the right qualifier on that. On the one hand, evidence is that Trump knows no shame. On the other hand, having to resign would label him as a loser.
We'll see.
It might make for good bookends for the unraveling.
I don't see Trump leaving of his own accord. Clinton proved that you can be impeached and survive -- even in the modern era. Assume Trump thinks that applies to him as well.
The other Clinton proved that as long as you have friendly people in the right places, you can clearly break the law and get away with it while you are running for President. What makes you think we should care about what Trump does? I mean, what makes you guys think calling you communists is worse than calling us racist. I have plenty of written evidence available at my finger tips to back it up. Right now, Trump has free reign like me or any other red. What blues often view as race related is actually class related, character related and education related. Here's the deal, whatever school didn't teach me, life and careers have taught me. So, keep this mind as we continue moving toward 4T.
Clinton was accused of fornication that he did, and not of outright rape. He wasn't walking into female changing rooms. He didn't brag about grabbing women by their crotches.
We on the Blue side are not Communists. Most of us recognize Communist rule for tyranny, repression, and a high body count, with Communist rule typically becoming reactionary due to an ideology that rejects real change.
Race and class are not intertwined as much as they used to be, as our system does a fine job of ensuring that supremely-talented black people get showcased for their legitimate achievements. It does badly at bringing people out of poverty, especially as inheritance becomes the predominant means of getting wealth from one set of people to another, and because bureaucratic institutions establish low, rigid ceilings for anyone not born to all the advantages of class privilege. People from among the poor might show some empathy for people in distress, which is inconsistent with an economic order that punishes poverty.
We now have a pay-to-play economic system. Everything has a high price, and all that really matter is that the economic elites get what they want. Therefore, making everything from health care to education fiendishly expensive (and the Trump design of privatization is to ensure that monopoly gougers get control of everything from schools to highways). Nothing matters to Trump and his ilk except that the Right People get whatever they want, and the rest of us suffer as much as is necessary to satisfy the unrestrained greed of such people.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.