Who Can Beat Trump?

[Eric the Green]

(09-22-2018, 10:51 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(09-22-2018, 07:45 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Trump's method is to confront and hope someone gives in, and then try to make a deal. He tore up the best deal with Iran that could have been gotten, which ended their nuclear program, even though it might have to be renewed. That makes the world more dangerous. It might work with North Korea, thanks to the dedication to peace from South Korea's leader. But if he does get a deal, which doesn't seem likely given Trump's demands, that would be to Trump's credit. Trump is imposing tariffs where they aren't necessary, and so far is unable to negotiate deals. We'll see. People are suffering in the meantime. The number of people entering the country was handled already; what Trump has done is violate the standard of human rights which this country was founded on. He gets no credit from me for that. Republicans and Trump are not willing to make a deal on that; the deal was available and they junked it.

Meanwhile, no-one has done more to institute government based on lies than Trump has done. Right-wingers say that what they disagree with are lies. But the right-wingers have put out lies for decades now, the chief one being that government programs create dependency, and that "liberty" means breaks for business bosses that take away opportunity and fair wages and health care from their employees and destroy the environment we depend on.

Show me a welfare recipient who isn't dependent on the welfare system. If you find one then explain to me why they're still on it.

People can't live for long on welfare; it's been cut so much that it doesn't provide a living income. Given the limits that Gingrich and Clinton imposed upon it in 1995, no-one can stay on it for very long. They are required to work or do without. Perhaps some state programs provide longer relief in states like CA, but it doesn't amount to much. Sometimes people are made wards of the state. For single men, I don't even think welfare is available in the USA anymore; it's only available for mothers with children. Food stamps are still available, although Trump wants to make people work for those too. Disability payments can last for many years, and they come as a result of insurance that people paid for. These are given to people who worked, but can't work anymore. My brother is one of those. 

One of the greatest welfare programs in existence in the USA is the prison system. That's where most of our welfare payments go. The drug war has had the opposite effect, and many young poor people go into the drug trade and then get put in prison and supported there, though it's not much of a life. But commit a crime, and at least you'll be taken care of in the USA, far more than in any other nation.