11-07-2018, 03:55 PM
(11-07-2018, 02:22 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(11-07-2018, 02:13 PM)Marypoza Wrote:(11-07-2018, 01:38 PM)David Horn Wrote:(11-06-2018, 11:34 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Yep. The see saw has half flipped. Neither party has enough reins to go crazy, excepting if the Supreme Court is stacked and gets the right cases to set some bad precedent.
Even then, the court is not likely to kill the political process, and righteous anger can trigger an all Blue election at some point in the future. All Blue will equal a larger SCOTUS with a liberal tilt, and a reset on everything Trump, and any successors, have done to that time.
At that point, we might just as well agree to separate or start the Constitutional process over from the convention onward. The creaky system will be broken ... no fix will be possible. I doubt I live long enough to see it, but I think it's in the cards.
-- it's possible this is how this 4T will play out. We have too many badass type weapons & WMDs to survive an all out civil war. A cold civil war punctuated by the occasional skirmish between the authorities & & various resistance groups culminating in not just an all Blue election election, but a true blue election with more ppl like those 100 women who just got elected into Congress, ppl who will enact real change, so you can definitely tell that a 1T is on the way
There was talk of a Calexit. I certainly would approve, but California voters although majority Democratic are not very adventurous; they can be bought on propositions sometimes, as was the case this year. Cautious voters would have to be very fed up to vote to leave the union, which is illegal in any event unless congress approves. I suspect that might be the case in other blue states.
If red state voters can tolerate what Trump has done so far, and vote to oust senators because they voted against an unfit creep rapist reactionary for the supreme court, I wonder what if anything could ever sway red voters to vote blue and vote for "real change."
We have to realize just HOW backward and fascist a country we live in. It likely does not change anymore, and they can't be persuaded to vote for leftist candidates like Sanders or Tulsi, whether male or female. Not in our lifetimes, or in those of our generation's offspring at least. What a sorry lot we are. Truly pathetic. That's why opposition to any Democrat is foolhardy. A corrupt, moderate, corporate Democrat is the best we can ever hope for to get elected.
I'm guessing that people who believe an account of some people barely out of the hunter-gatherer stage of economic and technological development as the accurate description of the origin of the Universe (roughly six days a little more than 6000 years ago) and claiming lifespans as high as 969 years for Methuselah (for which there is no other record) voted heavily for Trump's stooges.
I'm tempted to tell them to wallow in their superstition and psuedoscience, except that helpless children are involved.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.