Election 2018

[Eric the Green]

(11-07-2018, 02:38 PM)Marypoza Wrote:

(11-07-2018, 02:22 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(11-07-2018, 02:13 PM)Marypoza Wrote:

(11-07-2018, 01:38 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(11-06-2018, 11:34 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Yep.  The see saw has half flipped.  Neither party has enough reins to go crazy, excepting if the Supreme Court is stacked and gets the right cases to set some bad precedent.

Even then, the court is not likely to kill the political process, and righteous anger can trigger an all Blue election at some point in the future.  All Blue will equal a larger SCOTUS with a liberal tilt, and a reset on everything Trump, and any successors, have done to that time.  


At that point, we might just as well agree to separate or start the Constitutional process over from the convention onward.  The creaky system will be broken ... no fix will be possible.  I doubt I live long enough to see it, but I think it's in the cards.

-- it's possible this is how this 4T will play out. We have too many badass type weapons & WMDs to survive an all out civil war. A  cold civil war punctuated by the occasional skirmish between the authorities & & various resistance groups culminating in not just an all Blue election election, but a true blue election with more ppl like those 100 women who just got elected into Congress, ppl who will enact real change, so you can definitely tell that a 1T is on the way

There was talk of a Calexit. I certainly would approve, but California voters although majority Democratic are not very adventurous; they can be bought on propositions sometimes, as was the case this year. Cautious voters would have to be very fed up to vote to leave the union, which is illegal in any event unless congress approves. I suspect that might be the case in other blue states.

If red state voters can tolerate what Trump has done so far, and vote to oust senators because they voted against an unfit creep rapist reactionary for the supreme court, I wonder what if anything could ever sway red voters to vote blue and vote for "real change." 

We have to realize just HOW backward and fascist a country we live in. It likely does not change anymore, and they can't be persuaded to vote for leftist candidates like Sanders or Tulsi, whether male or female. Not in our lifetimes, or in those of our generation's offspring at least. What a sorry lot we are. Truly pathetic. That's why opposition to any Democrat is foolhardy. A corrupt, moderate, corporate Democrat is the best we can ever hope for to get elected.

-- yeah Eric, & that's how we get corrupt leaders like Ms Nancy who won't change jackshit. Oh wait, your state spewed her corrupt ass up, didn't it?

That's how we got them. The people voted for them. Don't blame the people who realize just how backward the USA really is. Get your head out of the clouds. This is the USA. I wish it were better, you know that. But it ain't.

We don't know yet if Pelosi will lead the new congress. But she gets 90% of the vote or no opposition in her own SF district. There aren't many more progressive places than SF in the USA. And it won't do any good for Democrats just to choose a younger leader who is less effective and less liberal than Pelosi. And Pelosi was VERY effective when she had a House majority in 2009, passing good health care reform, a carbon tax and other progressive legislation, only to have it watered down by red state Democrats. Remember that too.