(03-11-2020, 02:53 PM)David Horn Wrote: I may not be a lawyer, but I can tell when someone is stupidly confessing to criminal activity on live TV... Trump asked Russia to intervene in 2016, and has asked Ukraine and the Chinese to intervene in this election. If that resulted in actions by either party, and it certainly did with the Russians, then conspiracy is already proven. I could go on at length about obstruction of Congress and justice in general, but why bother?
And showing a video of two leaders talking about state business proves nothing. If you have a case that this was done by Obama for his personal benefit, then show it. It's been alleged by others, and no one found it credible who was credible him or herself.
-Obstruction of Congress is not a crime. Using that standard, Obama and Holder should have been impeached fro withholding the Fast & Furious docs.
Now, let's compare Trump's public joke to Obama's plot...
Trump quote:
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press"
...because everyone in the audience knew that the last thing that the mainstream media wanted to do at that time was do anything that would hurt Clinton.
BTW, your lack of concern that Clinton's personal server allowed the Russian's and Chinese to hack here emails is telling. Funny, I remember back in 2008 when you pointed out what a shady thing the Clinton Foundation was. I guess you got over it.
Obama sotto voce quote, accidentally caught on tape:
“This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”
...so, Obama asked Medvedev to help him on his election in return for giving the Russians what they wanted. Mr. Horn, why it would be that Obama would be able to give the Russian's exactly what they want (which he did, constantly) only when he is no longer electorally responsible to the American people? That's actual quid pro quo.
Meanwhile, there is ZERO evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. Mueller's partisan political hacks were desperate to find anything, but there was no there there. Meanwhile, Obama's DOJ swallowed whole Russian disinformation, paid by the Clinton machine.
Sheesh.