06-30-2020, 08:21 PM
(06-29-2020, 05:39 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(06-29-2020, 10:42 AM)David Horn Wrote:(06-29-2020, 09:58 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: ... I count the progressive era as lasting from FDR to LBJ. The conservative era runs from Nixon to hopefully Trump. LBJ by going after the black vote ended the time that America was Great.
Hopefully, the current rejection of racist violent policing marks a time where this might turn around.
I actually push the Progressive era through Carter, but that's it! Nixon was a scumbag, but he created the Environmental Protection Agency and opened the door to China. That has to count for something. Carter made the tragic error of being in the job at the wrong point in history.
The disasters, in terms of Watergate and the Fall of Saigon, started on Nixon's watch. America failing started a bit earlier. Still, it seems traditional that everything can be argued about here.
I'd say the ongoing collapse [a process, not an event] started in 1973 with the oil shock, add 1979, the de-industrialization from the mid 1970's through the 1980's. The 1980's-2008 was a fake debt fueled boom. The DNC forsook it's FDR roots with Clinton and joined the Neoliberal duopoly. This undermined what safety nets we have. Next is the deficient provision of public goods which has now led to the US utterly exposed to Covid-19, where hey, we're number 1. USA, USA! Number 1 at last in something. Covid-19 cases, woo-hoo. And for a nice big fat cherry on top, citizens united which legalized bribery.
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