09-10-2020, 12:07 AM
(09-09-2020, 08:28 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(09-05-2020, 08:21 AM)Isoko Wrote: Actually over the last few days, I really do think that Trump is going to lose this fight to Joe Biden. If it is true what he said about the military dead and veterans is true, Trump is pretty much finished to a blue landslide as not even the hard core right wingers CNA tolerate that. Plus he continues to bury himself with the postal vote scandal.
However, there is only two ways that Trump can still pull this off. First is the debates. Biden has to show up to all three debates and show he is leadership material. If he backs down, sends in Kamala or performs poorly, Trump can come out of this looking strong.
Second is BLM/ANTIFA. I'm reading more reports of killings performed by these groups. America just had the Kyle Rittenhouse saga. If anything major blows up and it really does show they have created an atrocity of some kind, the Dems better take a huge harsh stand on it, otherwise Trump will capitalise.
Otherwise, I think Trump is toast. Even I am starting to go off him as the whole veteran thing and postal voting is a step too far for even me.
Dude, it's obvious that Trump is the better/stronger leader and it's obvious that Biden is playing second fiddle to him and on the defensive at this point. So, it's a matter of how much the Democratic party is able to protect Biden and cheat and get away with it without triggering a civil war that the Washington elite ( the people that the vast majority of Americans don't like, don't trust and could care less if the all disappeared that Trump refers to as the swamp and Pelosi formerly referred to as the carousel of corruption) will be powerless to stop at that point. I've telling the out of touch bimbo's who into denial and wishful thinking and sharing values and worldviews associated with a heavenly world that doesn't exist at this point. Also, it's coming down to the over all strength and commitment of the political bases as well.
Dude, Isoko is right and you are wrong. Donald Trump has come to differ from the late Salvador Allende only in not supporting radical reforms against the economic elites. He insults the Armed Services with derogatory words. In the past these people have fought enemies who have even sought to destroy our political heritage. OK, Trump disparages much of our heritage... and he offers nothing in return.
Saying that Joe Biden must show up to the debates to win is about like saying that if there were a chess match between you and Garry Kasparov that if Kasparov failed to turn up, then you would win. That is the most basic rule; one must show up to the match to have a chance. (Of course you are in no position to get a match against Kasparov, so that is an extreme hypothetical). Until it happens I cannot predict how the debate will go.
I have some misgivings about Joe Biden being as old as he is. Anyone his age, even if being one of the most athletic people around at age 78, is at significant risk of senile dementia. There is the precedent of Ronald Reagan, and people around him handled it well by reducing Reagan's role to ceremony while doing what most people expected Reagan to do if he were a competent administrator. Joe Biden is not too bad yet, and one of two things is likely should he find himself in the event that he is no longer up to the job. One is that he will resign for reasons of health; the other is that he will be treated like Reagan. It is unfortunate that Donald Trump, who shows signs of dementia, could never let someone else challenge his desire for despotic power.
As for elites -- our economic elites are obnoxious, rapacious, and ruthless. The only ones with the ability to challenge them are the cultural elites as in Hollywood, New York, and perhaps Nashville. I don't see the military staging a coup. If Trump tries to stay in power while he claims to have been cheated in the election, then the military will not back him. YouTube video:
My comment on YouTube as a response:
Quote:This is exactly what I would have expected from extreme leftists back in the 1960's, defeatists who would have cheered the advance of the Soviet Army into their American town at the time. I would be wrong. This is Donald Trump. I have long thought myself a liberal Democrat, but now I feel compelled to talk about Donald Trump as if I were the conservative and he were the extreme-left defeatist. Damn, this electoral season is weird!
I can imagine ways in which he could be induced to leave without being killed or dragged out. One is that the staff no longer prepares food for him and the only beverage available is what Joe Biden asks for... and the media don't bring cameras and microphones to 'cover' him.
This said, he is the first President who faces criminal charges. If his response to COVID-19 (which without bias toward any ethnic or religious groups might constitute negligent homicide) has any apparent connection to ethnic or religious bias, then he might be hauled off to the Hague Tribunal for crimes against humanity. The NAACP already makes the suggestion that COVID-19 has hit blacks harder than whites even if the assumption that I make in a rural area that the most vulnerable people are those fools who refuse to wear masks and congregate recklessly bringing it upon themselves.
This Presidency is falling apart. All that is remarkable is that it took so long. He has his fanatical supporters who will believe in him to the end, people who will believe that he was cheated when he loses. And, yes, he is going to lose.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.