09-30-2020, 01:24 PM
I watched some of the debate. I concur with what p rower is saying - it was more like Jerry Springer and not a presidential debate. Its up in the air though on who won and I feel it necessary to add my own thoughts.
I think that both Biden and Trump "won". They both played to their effective bases. I don't think either of them changed any minds. However I do think Biden did very well and held himself in a dignified manner, this sort of blowing a hole in the Republican "he's got dementia" strategy.
However, Biden also came across as a worn out time piece, someone who belongs in an entirely different period of time. Whether you like it or not, America is starting to resemble Latin American politics and Trump is a 2020 man.
Its actually surprising but from polls I've seen and comments I've read, Trump does have significant support in the black and Hispanic community. Some of them like the tough macho image and Trump plays it well. I wouldn't be surprised if those Cuban Americans in Florida vote Trump quite heavily.
To be honest, I think the debates will change no minds. They'll just further reinforce the existing bases. The big question on election day is silent America. Do they decide to go with Joe or back Trump for another four years?
Also of interest I realised today is that this is probably the last election we will see of what I term "old white America". Come 2024, the lineup is going to be more diverse and reaching out to the changing demographics, which means that in the long run, American politics are going to take a rapid change.
So even if Trump wins another 4 years, it really is a last hurrah as demographics are destiny and the changes are going to come inevitably.
I think that both Biden and Trump "won". They both played to their effective bases. I don't think either of them changed any minds. However I do think Biden did very well and held himself in a dignified manner, this sort of blowing a hole in the Republican "he's got dementia" strategy.
However, Biden also came across as a worn out time piece, someone who belongs in an entirely different period of time. Whether you like it or not, America is starting to resemble Latin American politics and Trump is a 2020 man.
Its actually surprising but from polls I've seen and comments I've read, Trump does have significant support in the black and Hispanic community. Some of them like the tough macho image and Trump plays it well. I wouldn't be surprised if those Cuban Americans in Florida vote Trump quite heavily.
To be honest, I think the debates will change no minds. They'll just further reinforce the existing bases. The big question on election day is silent America. Do they decide to go with Joe or back Trump for another four years?
Also of interest I realised today is that this is probably the last election we will see of what I term "old white America". Come 2024, the lineup is going to be more diverse and reaching out to the changing demographics, which means that in the long run, American politics are going to take a rapid change.
So even if Trump wins another 4 years, it really is a last hurrah as demographics are destiny and the changes are going to come inevitably.